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*loads up F1 2011 on Steam (THAT STILL REQUIRES GFWL), plays effortlessly, with no problems*

*loads up GTA, plays effortlessly, with no problems*

*loads up Arkham City, plays effortlessly, with no problems*



I guess I'm just one of the lucky few that can use GFWL without my computer developing intelligent AI who's sole reason for existance is to make sure I'm whining about anything that isn't Steam all day every day.


I really feel it for all these people who literally cant enjoy games unless they're on Steam.

It's like me saying I can't enjoy a sandwich unless it's exactly 6:43 PM and there's a beautiful sandwich staring at me.......only problem is......it's 10:01.....AM!!!!mad.gif ragepic.jpg


I do hope this gets sorted so these poor souls can enjoy good games that aren't Steam centric like normal people can.
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Man, the amount of trash talk from those that are "against" this petition is nauseating. Not one of you has been bashed, yet you come in here and call the people supporting this petition "childish", "whiners," and "fanboys."
Must be nice being so perfect.
It's not that these people are being self-entitled whiners, they're just clearly stating the obvious. GFWL is a cancer for PC gaming. It's a cheap attempt to integrate the XBox feel on to PC that causes more headaches than it's worth. You don't have to go far to read some of the horror stories. Not to mention, it's a dying service.
We can all agree that no DRM is the most optimal scenario for everyone, but that's not how the world works these days (save gog.com/CDPR). Why not go with, hands down, the premiere PC games digital distribution service? Not only is it less of a headache, the business aspect of it just makes more sense (unless MS is just throwing mounds of cash at them for incorporating GFWL). I was furious when I found out Skyrim was a Steamworks game. Also having to deal with the hiccups that most experienced in the beginning didn't help matters.
Now? I barely notice it. Hell, since Steam loads automagically when I start my computer, I can just boot up Skyrim from NMM and never see a Steam window. Less intrusive DRM, better support, larger community and a platform that spotlights games to help bolster sales? It's a win-win.
But I guess that makes me a childish self-entitled PC gamer fanboy for supporting it.

I had to second this. If a petition is what it takes to get noticed then so be it. It's useful feedback for the devs, but in most cases they'd simply ignore it anyway.

Then one day, a developer will come along and take notice, and reap the rewards for giving the people what they want. GFWL is useless and an annoyance. It's not necessary.

Whats annoying are those regulars constantly coming into these threads to whine about the "whiners". How ironic. Especially when the petitions/whining is justified.
Edited by Thingamajig - 4/12/12 at 9:42am
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I had to second this. If a petition is what it takes to get noticed then so be it. It's useful feedback for the devs, but in most cases they'd simply ignore it anyway.
Then one day, a developer will come along and take notice, and reap the rewards for giving the people what they want.
Whats annoying are those regulars constantly coming in threads to whine about the "whiners". How ironic.

I dont think you actually understand just how irony filled both of these two sentences are. Even while mentioning irony.

The rewards of Dark Souls giving people what they wanted?

"Now do X, Y and Z or I'm not buying and I'm going to tell all my friends not to buy too!"
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@Rubers, do you ever play games with matchmaking on GFWL? It is terribad.
I can honestly say I haven't. I did have someone join me playing Fable III, though. I just left it entirely open and they popped in.
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*loads up F1 2011 on Steam (THAT STILL REQUIRES GFWL), plays effortlessly, with no problems*
*loads up GTA, plays effortlessly, with no problems*
*loads up Arkham City, plays effortlessly, with no problems*
I guess I'm just one of the lucky few that can use GFWL without my computer developing intelligent AI who's sole reason for existance is to make sure I'm whining about anything that isn't Steam all day every day.
I really feel it for all these people who literally cant enjoy games unless they're on Steam.
It's like me saying I can't enjoy a sandwich unless it's exactly 6:43 PM and there's a beautiful sandwich staring at me.......only problem is......it's 10:01.....AM!!!!mad.gif ragepic.jpg
I do hope this gets sorted so these poor souls can enjoy good games that aren't Steam centric like normal people can.

Oh, totally forgot about the Batman games as well. Yep, play them all, no problem, no hindrance. Sure, there's that thing that dude mentioned about the client updating, but it's not a massive problem. It's not a big deal to have wait, golly gosh, 5 more minutes before playing. Just enough time to stick the kettle on, or write a small poem, perhaps a Haiku.
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As much as i hate GFWL we already got the game for PC, PLUS NEW BOSSES, and now people are mad and want to boycott the game over this? Good luck with the petition but we should be glad we are at least getting the game.
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I do not see anything wrong with people voicing displeasure over GFWL. There are plenty of people who voice displeasure over other products like cars, restaurants, and Netflix. Why not gaming services?

If devs/publishers choose to ignore it, so be it. However, at least the devs/publishers cannot say people did not say anything.
Edited by Riou - 4/12/12 at 10:06am
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I do not see anything wrong with people voicing displeasure over GFWL. There are plenty of people who voice displeasure over other products like cars, restaurants, and Netflix. Why not gaming services?
If devs/publishers choose to ignore it, so be it. However, at least the devs/publishers cannot say people did not say anything.
Yeah, I have no problems with people having a good moan about something. But then there's this:
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As much as i hate GFWL we already got the game for PC, PLUS NEW BOSSES, and now people are mad and want to boycott the game over this? Good luck with the petition but we should be glad we are at least getting the game.

Valid imho.
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If you don't care about GFWL and have never had problems with it (like me), even if you have no idea what dark souls is and never plan to play it (again, like me) you still have a vested interest in holding companies responsible for turning out malfunctioning software.
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"I have no problem with GFWL, so no one else should be allowed to!"

The majority of PC gamers would rather not have GFWL.
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"I have no problem with GFWL, so no one else should be allowed to!"
The majority of PC gamers would rather not have GFWL.

The majority of PC gamers actually dont care.

There are people who complain/fuss on the internet about DRM, and there are people who just play games they like.

The latter FAR outnumbers the former.

Just because conservative tea party members run around America calling Obama African born, doesn't mean there aren't a majority of sane Americans who dont even care to comment on the subject because it's just so absurd/uninteresting to them.

Sure they get a lot of news coverage for making so much noise, but they'd be fooling themselves if they thought their opinion was astutely shared by the majority.
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