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I have an MSI 865PE Neo2F in an old system that im resurrecting from the dust and I have a question about ram. In the motherboard manual it says that i cant run pc3200 unless i have a 800 Mhz FSB chip. In the bios i can choose the memory speed that i have no matter what chip is installed. I would like to get pc3200 so that i can take advantage of the 1 to 1 multiplier for the ram. I would think that the performance boost would be nice if i could. Also i do need to upgrade from the 512 mb that i have on there now so im looking to kill two birds with one stone i guess. If i can use the pc-3200 i can upgrade to a prescott later on. I dont want to have to buy the ram twice if i dont have to..
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wait, what is the question here?
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can i use pc3200 ram with an old northwood 400 FSB on the 865PE chipset
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yeah, but the ram will downclock

you will be able to run like 1.5-2-2-5
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ok, just so long as it will work. I may upgrade to a 478-pin prescott later on, so i didnt want to have to buy pc-2100 then buy pc-3200 when i update the proc.
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It's ok to run RAM faster than your CPU-FSB.
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post #7 of 9
The 865PE chipset is a bit strange with RAM at times. It usually doesn't show DDR400 as an option in the BIOS if the external clock speed is set below 200 MHz (either a low FSB CPU or underclocking). If you OC a 533 MHz FSB CPU to 800 MHz FSB, the DDR400 option will show; at 199 MHz, it won't.

This may not hold true for all BIOSes that run on 865PE boards, but it's fairly common from my experience. You can use PC3200 RAM regardless of the CPU frequency; you just may have to underclock it until you get a faster CPU. If you're planning on getting a Pressy down the road and really overclocking it, you may want to consider good overclocking PC3200 or average PC4000.
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post #8 of 9
Nicely put Taeric

That board is crying out for a 800mhz CPU (prescott or Northwood) but I too dont see it being a problem.

Could you borrow some DDR400 and test it before shelling out any money?
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I dont know anyone that isnt using their ram at the moment , but i think that im just going to get a gig of 3200 and give it a try. If it doesnt work ill just wait a bit and get myself a nice 3.4 prescott as they are getting quite cheap at this point. The motherboard itself is quite condusive to overclocking, i have heard of people getting 3.0 Ghz out of northwoods no problem. I just cant figure out on that particular motherboard what i have to change. My Presler was easy to overclock, but i just cant figure the northy out. Maybe its the ddr-266 i dont know.
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