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Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post

I actually thought the advertising campaign was quite creative. It got my attention for sure.
I'm reading a lot of speculation and somewhat biased predictions, and not a lot of facts. Just humor me and everyone else who reads this thread and explain why Nokia is heading down the wrong track... it looks like they're legitimately trying to make a comeback with the L900 with quite a bit of success so far.
And I'm not tracking your post history. Just calling you out on things that you've said in previous threads on the same topic. I'm not out to get you at all, just trying to show you and others that your predictions are unfounded based on current sales trends. It's hard to argue when the numbers for the L900 tell a story that is polar opposite of what you're claiming.
And don't bring Windows 8 into this. It's an OS that was first designed for tablets and smartphones and then adapted to larger x86 platforms. You're grasping at straws if you believe there is a legitimate connection there.

There's a connection because WP7 and W8 run essentially the same UI. So, if people come to like WP7, it will likely have a positive effect on W8 sales. However, if people get W8 and realize they hate the new UI...that will definitely have an effect on WP7 sales, too. It works both ways.
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Is this all you do, rag and rag on Nokia and WP7? What is your problem?
Explain how Nokia is heading down a wrong path? This is their only path left. Windows Phone is an awesome start for them. How is it not?

WP is an awesome start for them? Did you even read the article in the OP?
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post #13 of 22
The article said nothing about this being a WP7 problem.
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I'd agree with madpistol. I also just looked through your posts and it seems kind of skewed.
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wow I cant believe there are still people defending this phone....
people who are talking smack out of their asses and linking these so called 'good' reviews from the net clearly have not owned this phone at all, there are 3 floors of WP7/iOS/Android developers below me right now and I have about 20 phones come and go from my desk every month and let me tell you that this phone is a PIECE OF ****. The Lumnia 800 is a great device and I've been using it for past 5 weeks before switching back to my 4S, both MS and Nokia failed hard with the Lumnia 900, it is NOT a bigger and better L800.

With this post you're saying that it is not a bigger and better L800, when in fact the only differences are in fact the size and weight of the phone. Also, how exactly do you get that
the phone is great for 5 weeks yet bash a phone that is just larger in screen size? rolleyes.gif It's like saying the GSII is amazing and the skyrocket is a POS (same phone, slight differences).
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All WP7 flaws aside (I can write a whole page about this alone but this is not the point), the physical screen is a massive failure, nothing like the L800's screen, the resolution is a huge let down, the dual-core processor is laughable at best, the camera quality is a joke (also 720p.. really???) and to top it off the thing weighs a brick. These are just the things people notice within the first 30mins of using the phone, and when the novelty wears off (not like there is any to begin with), people will realise that WP7 is extremely limited and dull.
That good enough for you?

With this post, we can see here that even you do not know the specs of the phone stating that it is a dual-core when in fact both the L800 and L900 are single core phones.You reference camera quality, but measure with video recording resolution.You even go as far as saying it weighs a brick, yet the difference is 14g. 30 mins of using the phone , but a great 5 weeks with the smaller version.

Back on topic: I've used plenty of phones, and am currently using an IP4, I wouldn't hesitate to switch. I'm not expecting any less after the software shenanigans which led to a bad start.
But numbers don't lie, the Lumia 900 is selling and it does have a following. Just like the android OS it just needs some time to pick up.
post #15 of 22
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The article said nothing about this being a WP7 problem.

This. It's a minor software glitch that can/will be easily patched. The OS is not the issue here. In the mean time, current AT&T customers can pick up the phone for virtually nothing after rebate.

You still haven't told us why this phone is going to fail. You keep pointing to specs and software, and I see no issues with either. The phone isn't a SGSII, but it was never designed to be one in the first place. This phone is targeted at an audience that wants to use their smartphones with as little hassle as possible. The learning curve is very small, the phone/OS as responsive as android phones costing 3x as much, and there is a "sleek" factor with the UI that isn't even present in current iOS devices. I'm not seeing the failure here. I'm seeing a whole bunch of win and lots of smart decisions by Nokia and Microsoft in regards to the design of this phone.
Edited by Mad Pistol - 4/11/12 at 9:58pm
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post #16 of 22
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304356604577337452563544904.html
looks like Nicki Minaj isnt doing her job right laughingsmiley.gif

I've seen your posts often, and you like to troll anything Nokia or Windows Phone. It's like you're tyring to protect your iPhone or Android ego. rolleyes.gif Your hate is oozing out. Try being more objective and less negative.

Honestly, if I were to purchase stock, I'd take a serious look into Nokia-- this article doesn't scare me. I've used their product and am quite impressed; their commitment level is high--what better time to buy!?
Edited by whitingnick - 4/11/12 at 10:08pm
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What did I miss? As an avid fan of regular corded phones in the house and non smart cellular phones, what did I miss?
    
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post #18 of 22
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WP is an awesome start for them? Did you even read the article in the OP?

Did YOU read the article in the OP?

Please quote for me where it makes a connection between the share price falling and the bug people are having.

The article is two separate stories in one page.

Not to mention the writer didn't do his job and properly report the story.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/nokia-to-release-fix-for-lumia-900-software-glitch-2012-04-11

A MUCH better version of the same article.
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WP is an awesome start for them? Did you even read the article in the OP?

Uh yeah it is... Meego/Symbian was already on a decline BEFORE Microkia launched their partnership thanks to penetration of Android and, to a lesser extent, iOS.

This partnership ensures their survival by partnering with a corporation that can afford to invest billions over the long haul; they can simply spend their way into a market like they've done in the past.

And for your information, the bug as already been patched and Nokia customers get a $100 gift card, essentially making the Lumia free.
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post #20 of 22
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304356604577337452563544904.html
looks like Nicki Minaj isnt doing her job right laughingsmiley.gif
Wow is it possible for you to troll even harder. The stock took a dive because of a weak 1st quarter outlook. Here's a news flash for you its the 2nd quarter now and the L900 launched in the second quarter. The weak 1st quarter outlook and the L900 launch are completely unrelated.
Edited by nuklearwax - 4/11/12 at 10:29pm
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