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Fellow enthusiasts, a while ago i have ordered the first consumer 4k projector Sony vpl-vw1000es. I placed my order in november, and because of some delays it will be delivered in a month or 2. I dislike multimonitor setups immensly, and really wanted to push the experience further. Now, i know there wont be any 4k content soon and this projector will be hooked up to my new rig (quad 7970, i wentwith radeons because of bigger vram whic Really matters at this res, but i will upgrade to whatever comes better and faster).

Something i just realized today is that the max output i can get is 4096x2160kis 24 hz or 3840x2160 at 30Hz, which is mainly limited by hdmi 1.4 standart ( there are 2 hdmi connectors on the projector but u cant split the load as you can in some high end offerings).
My question is: i am not an FPS fan and will mostly be playing (if at all) skyrim like games. And might try some faster paced (maybe racing) games. Does anyone have any experience playing on a monitor of any kind with 30hz refresh rate? Is it really uber bad? I am not cancelling my order anyway, just want to discuss. Isnt ps3 limited to 30 fps?
And do you think vsync should be off or on on a 30Hz monitor?
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Wow, 30 Hz.... Will definitely not be much fun to game on that thing, despite the 4K resolution.

I have no idea whether vsync should be on or off. I always have it off on 90% of the games because i feel like there's a delay when it's on

PS3 and Xbox360 run 50hz i believe. The only game i know that's limited to 30fps is GTA IV

Try and lower your normal pc monitor Hz to 24/30 to get a feeling of how it is. Not very nice in my opinion.. sadsmiley.gif
Edited by Fuzzmeister - 4/12/12 at 4:32am
post #3 of 15
you will be fine with game like skyrim etc, but racing games or fast paste games, anything lower than 60hz is bad.
Edited by charlievoviii - 4/12/12 at 4:35am
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Can i lock my current refresh rate on my monitor via CCC? Or i need radeon pro?
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Can i lock my current refresh rate on my monitor via CCC? Or i need radeon pro?

CCC -> desktop management -> desktop properties -> choose Hz

Might be slightly different on CCC, i have Amd vision center on this computer, but it's basically the same
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worlds first 4k projector, with quad 7970.. WE WANT PICTURES drool.gif
post #7 of 15
nah mate you will be absolutely fine at 30hz

i imagine you are going to be lying on the couch, you should invest in a nice xbox 360 style controller for your pc, and bathe in your amazingly big and detailed image!

most games on console run at like 30 fps anyway, if your playing skyrim like games you are going to be fine.

by the way, you would probably be fine just running your games at 4096x2160 anyway, thats still a big resolution. thats like 4 1080p screens?



the only time you should worry about your refresh rates or lag or anything is when your playing competitive fps games, in which case your best bet is a 1080p TN panel with a fast responce, or even a 120hz. but adventure games, you gonna be fine.

hmm, on second thought you might be able to get a higher refresh rate if you try using a DVI-D cable, does it have DVI-D input? you probably wont know until you get it...
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post #8 of 15
So with the 4k projector that you got all of the video will go through a single HDMI 1.4 cable? Wow, I thought there was more to it :/
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nah mate you will be absolutely fine at 30hz

i imagine you are going to be lying on the couch, you should invest in a nice xbox 360 style controller for your pc, and bathe in your amazingly big and detailed image!

most games on console run at like 30 fps anyway, if your playing skyrim like games you are going to be fine.

by the way, you would probably be fine just running your games at 4096x2160 anyway, thats still a big resolution. thats like 4 1080p screens?



the only time you should worry about your refresh rates or lag or anything is when your playing competitive fps games, in which case your best bet is a 1080p TN panel with a fast responce, or even a 120hz. but adventure games, you gonna be fine.

Actually the projector will replace my current 1080p epson just above my bed, and i am only gaming on an xbox controller, since a keyboards and mouse in bed are not practical. I will obviosly share a small review when i recieve it( dropping 25k$ on the projector alone totally desrves a review smile.gif)

3840x2160 is 4x1080p btw. So the max res is a bit more, since they have not yet set a definitive 4k standart.

The problem is since the product is not yet widely availablencomplete information on refresh rate for example is unavailable. I wonder if i can get 120hz or more at 1080p, that would be nice for fps games.
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Hate to double post, but whatever...
Just tested on my current setup using msi fps limiter set to 30. Played metro 2033 maxed wit limiter and no limiter at about over 100 average (dont know for sure, but between 80 to 160 depending on environment. And i really did not see any differnce. I am not saing there is no difference, it is just that it might be harder to tell on the projector, since you do not have the same responce time as on a lcd either way i think. Anyone can confirm that (anyone got any ideas about the projectors actual responce rate? Kinda feels slower then lcd, but i cant tell for sure) ? Also, is the msi fps limiter really working. I.e: does it really lock my fps or maybe it is just a bug where it shiws that there is an fps cap but it is not implemented? I ask since i could not see the difference so i figured it could be software related.
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