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Hi OCN:D

First of all i wanna say im sorry that im bringing this up again, i know this debate has been done to death....
Its just that i wanted some clarity on a few points which i havnt been able to get from what ive read about these headphones yet.

I should inform you that im a total newbie to the headphone area... I thought of getting headphones for a couple of reasons:
I recently joined a team to play competitive Battlefield 3(even played a tournament), and thought that getting a decent pair of headphones should help me out.
When I started reading OCN and started googling about headphones, I got really interested in getting headphones for listening to music instead:thumb:(Dont know how that happened).......

Now from what ive been reading, people tend to say that the Sennhieser HD 595 are a more neutral sounding headphone with a rather compact, focused base. Ive read that these dont have very large soundstage but still acceptable. However when they are 'burnt-in" is when they sound the best..supposedly they 'open-up'.
Due to the supposed 'dull' personality of these headphones people would get turned off by them.
According to what ive been reading sennhieser has reacted to this by releasing the HD 598 headphone which is brighter and has fuller mids. This has apparently made it a more fun headphone to listen to.

Now I've only read a few reviews and wanted a better picture in regards to these two headphones. Which is why im asking you guys who have might have owned these or do own them now.
I should tell you that no matter what i get i will use the headphone for gaming as well as music, where music will be the priority. I dont mind sacrificing gaming performance for music, is what i want to say.
I generally prefer more neutral sounding speakers compared to those that might be biased towards a certain frequency range. That being said I dont mind how the HD 595 are not very strong on the lows but (according to what ive read) stay true to mids and highs. Now i dont know how accurate the reviews ive read are, i need your help to figure that out.


So finally these are the clear questions that id like ask you guys:
Are the 595's harsh in the highs or roll off well, does the 598 do a better job in this area?
Ive read that 598 offer better soundstage(means better for gaming?), do they sacrifice on neutrality too much to achieve this?
Is it possible the the bass of the 598 might get too loose when burnt-in(after like 200 hrs+ usage)? I wont mind burning the 595's if i had too(i can wait np)


Bottomline, I dont mind getting 598's if the trade off isnt too bad....

Im open to all suggestions and\or ideas, just bear in mind i will not be able to get many other brands(AD, beyerdynamic,etc) easily due availability limitations in my location.

The hd 595s are available for 215USD and hd 598 for 235USD in my area...

Thanks in advance!!thumb.gif
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If you're going to be playing in places with lots of people, you're likely going to want closed-back earphones. If you're just in your house/apartment by yourself, it doesn't matter as much.

What is your source (what produces sound on your computer/do you have an eternal dac/etc)?
Have you had high-end headphones before? Or have you just bought cheapos from ?
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Originally Posted by Rayyeter View Post

If you're going to be playing in places with lots of people, you're likely going to want closed-back earphones. If you're just in your house/apartment by yourself, it doesn't matter as much.
What is your source (what produces sound on your computer/do you have an eternal dac/etc)?
Have you had high-end headphones before? Or have you just bought cheapos from ?

thanks for your reply mate
Im gonna be listening in my room.
Never bought high-end headphones before....Im planning to purchase a Xonar ST sound card..might even do a simple DIY tube amp later on biggrin.gifthumb.gif
On-board for now though
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I think that you do not need advice for that. after 200 some hrs headphones will sound better,like you said.
i would look for some akg model in that price range or http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Head-Direct/HE-300/4.html .
Personally I am always for sennheiser,and the quality of the sound ends on personal opinion in the end. smile.gif
have old hd450 and they still sounds very good. smile.gif
go for the sennheiser 600 series and forget about xonar st,but thats just me.
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...might even do a simple DIY tube amp later on biggrin.gifthumb.gif
On-board for now though

must at some point.
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@Jon A. Slivers Ive read that the 598s sound pretty exciting right out of the box while the 595s require burn-in.....Which headphone would you recommend buying, knowing that i prefer a more neutral sound compared to a biased delivery(hd 598)...Also how bad is the trade off in the hd598s anyway? Also decided on that xonar after reading "OCN's most recommended audio products" article...thought it should do until one i can get me a real DAC. Plus it'll be great for gaming thumb.gif

@Rayyeter I thought of getting a good headphone & spending so much because im not gonna get another one for a fair amount of time. Ill have to wait a while and save up to be able get a decent soundcard/dac + amp...Kind of a waiting game frown.gif..But i bet it'll be worth it in the end wink.gif



About the 600s..
How are they with respect to gaming? I know that they deliver music- wise for sure its just that i wanted to use the headphones for gaming as well.....
p.s your link isnt working...maybe the servers are down atm or something. Ill google about the amp anyway thanks thumb.gif



Ive also been reading that the 595s really benefit from amplification which isnt exactly the case with the 598s...Im not saying that the 598s dont need amplification its just the difference one feels, supposedly, when comparing an unamped 595 to one that is, is greater in comparison to 598's situation. So its the 595s "dull" sound-without an amp before/burn-in vs 598s likable out of the box more forward, lively sound without offering that same neutrality....

Im telling you this to highlight my point that if the 598s sound is not that biased so as to completely write it off then ill get it. Also this pair apparently offers a better sound-stage, which is good for positional cues in gaming right?

Thanks for the replies guys:thumb:

http://diyaudioprojects.com/Solid/12AU7-IRF510-LM317-Headamp This is a really popular diy project and has decent sound as well....Its what i was considering to build.
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598s sound more exciting because they're a brighter headphone than Sennheiser traditionally brings out. If you want a very neutral headphone the HD600 is the one, but you should get an amp for it.

The 595 isn't as good as the HD598, isn't as appealing looks wise as the 598, but in terms of neutrality, the 595 is more neutral than the 598. The 598 is the better headphone though.
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I would go somewhere where i can here for myself which sounds better,if there isn`t that option buy one of these an do not regret. smile.gif
it cant be big difference.
if you can afford it go for 600 series,if not one of these two wont disappoint you for sure. smile.gif
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Before I continue on to the subject, I'd like to say that I've owned both of the headphones, HD598s and HD595s. I also owned and still have HD555s to this day w/ removed foam behind the grill.

My testing setup wasn't an ordinary iPod gadget. I had Asus Xonar STX with 600Ohm amplification capability.

As I said before, HD598s are 96% HD595s sound wise. HD599s might be slightly brighter right out of the box, but solely due to their inner cup design and not the equipped drivers.
They share the same drivers, so you can be assured that they will sound very similar; in fact, same.

Same goes for HD555s vs HD595s. Equipped with same drivers, apart from the foam behind grill that ******* the drivers.

This is the reason as to why I decided to hold on to my HD555s. They share the same drivers, but HD555s were only $45 each (I purchased 2 in one listing) at the time when I had purchased it. smile.gif


But since both the headphones priced closely, it would be wise to buy the HD598s

Quote from Headfonia.com "Old and New: HD555, HD558, HD598"
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It is interesting to note that Sennheiser created the HD555, the HD558, and the HD598 out of the same driver and the same frame design. The only thing that differentiates them, seemingly are the grill portion, and in the case of the HD555 to HD558, the construction around the driver.
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