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No. I'm doing the exact opposite of trolling. Trolls are ignorant idiots who don't care for legitimate information. I'm asking for useful information that for some reason every single person with an ES or early release IB chip has refused to do.... max air clocks. Max air clocks is the single most important piece of information we can take from this chip. Clock for clock information still isn't even that useful.
I'm looking for 24/7 IPS numbers. Sure seeing a cinebench score for a 6ghz IB chip is awesome... will you be running it at 6ghz when you game, or when you fold, or when you compress files, or even when you compile vids? Yea didn't think so.

I dought you will see any bad things in any form from people who get chips sent to them,maybe thats why no real air tests.
Air does not sell ln2 numbers do.it happens every time on new launches

So just weed out the bs" commercals" that some post
It seems 4.6 air is what has been posted by more then one person being ":max:"

Sry op for ot
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Speculation yes, but all sources seem to be pointing the same way sad-smiley-002.gif
I still have my hopes up a bit but am not going to be diehard like the BD fans who had everything spelled out multiple times and refused to believe it because AMD didnt say it was that way.
Anyway sux that you hit a wall @ 4.8, but what are you using to monitor temps. I really wouldnt have thought ivy would have been that much hotter (especially since tri gate was supposed to minimize leakage, which in turn would make sense of lower heat to me) Intel may have vastly lowered TDP? If they did that to account for 22nm that would explain why temps are so far up (though not the spikes)
IKD just a thought... as it isnt out yet I figured temp monitoring may not be quite accurate as we would like.

From filling out OC lists in threads I see the variation there can between individual chips. Some of it might be down to OCing ability, but not all. It was noticeable that there was a lot of variation in what SB chips would do, and I noted guys who just kept buying SB chips binning away looking for little Miss Perfect overclocker. Even with the old 1366 950 chips there were hot ones (temperature) and not so hot ones...

I know I'm going to buy one, and I expect individual chip performance to be a bit of a lottery just like SB was.

Thanks heaps Eggy88 for a taste of what these chips can be like... I'm not 99% air...I'm interested in all the results. wink.gif
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Well i don't know where to start.

1'st of all i could have had a bad luck regarding the chip, and that this is a really bad one on air / water. As of now i've only been able to get it up to 4.5Ghz. It was rock stable @ 4.5Ghz with 1.3v (I have not tried anything lower, and started @ 1.3v to have it stable), after that it went all crap. Tried 5Ghz with everything up to 1.45v, nothing. Crashed with the windows loading every time, same story with 4.8Ghz at the same voltages.

I've flashed the Max V Gene to 0701, but did not help much. I've tried PPL up to 1.9v, i've tried VCCIO up to 1.1v and i've tried Vcore up to 1.45v nothing helps past 4.8Ghz.

Also we can conclude that IB produces A LOT of heat. @ 1.4v i got a load temp of mid 50's, that is with a dual GTX 360 radiator in 6c ambient, water temp was no problem and usually stayed ~10-14c.
With the same setup i was able to keep a 2600k with HT and 1.63V under 65c, that was also with 3x 6970 @ 1.4v in the same loop. So far LN2 seems to be the only hope for this chip, trow 1.8v+ at it and hope it scales like a god with cold temps.

As for the SB Vs IB testing it's coming along great. I'm done with Stock and 4.5Ghz tests on the 3570K, i originally wanted to do a 5Ghz comparison as well, but that is not possible ATM.

I will post the results as soon as i'm done with the 2600k tests, but now i need to hit the bed, have a couple of classes that's starting in 7 hours.

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@ Eggy88, Hi man, thanks for the info! not trying to be an ass or anything but do you know what settings you need to change for Asus mobos? for example vcore switching freq, pase control, pll overvolatage etc? i'm asking this because you own UD7 mobo, which is really different from Asus regarding BIOS settings.

I have a litle clue, used to bench on the MIIF before, and has another buy helping me that is pretty used to LN2 runs and benching on Asus Max boards, but any help is welcome, if you could write a litle post about the different things to look at i'll be happy to test that out.
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All I have a is a SB on Z68, but the hangup at Windows splash is what happens when PLL Overvoltage needs to be enabled.
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ive gotten my chip stable 4.8ghz @ 1.225V with temps of about 60-70 load. some benches smile.gif
ive tried going up to 5ghz but i needed 1.3 to boot, and 1.35 to start testing without instant bsod. temps skyrocketed so i didnt really go on for stability testing.
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Maybe the new 3d transistors to blame for the heat? Cant imagine how a 22nm at the same clocks but lower voltage is this much hotter than it's 32nm counterpart.
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No. I'm doing the exact opposite of trolling. Trolls are ignorant idiots who don't care for legitimate information. I'm asking for useful information that for some reason every single person with an ES or early release IB chip has refused to do.... max air clocks. Max air clocks is the single most important piece of information we can take from this chip. Clock for clock information still isn't even that useful.
I'm looking for 24/7 IPS numbers. Sure seeing a cinebench score for a 6ghz IB chip is awesome... will you be running it at 6ghz when you game, or when you fold, or when you compress files, or even when you compile vids? Yea didn't think so.

I dought you will see any bad things in any form from people who get chips sent to them,maybe thats why no real air tests.
Air does not sell ln2 numbers do.it happens every time on new launches

So just weed out the bs" commercals" that some post
It seems 4.6 air is what has been posted by more then one person being ":max:"

Sry op for ot

Just tp clarify, i did not get this chip from Intel or anything like that so i'm in no way under any NDA or anything like that, the test i do are tests I want to run and tests users here have suggested to do. I will see if i can get a OK air cooler and see how far it will be pushed on air, but i dont want to promise anything, ATM i have my hands full, the things i want to have done is the following:

- Compare performance on 3.4Ghz and 4.5Ghz between SB and IB (Almost done)
- Compare temperatures on a fixed voltage (1.1v, 1.25v, and 1.35v) between SB and IB.
- Check max clocks on chilled water.
- Check max clocks on LN2

after that i done i will see if i can get the time to test air clocks, but considering that there are other users here testing that, that is not on the top of my list.

This chip is bought as a leaked retail chip from China, and there is quite a number of chips that has leaked and found their way into the market.
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Well i don't know where to start.

1'st of all i could have had a bad luck regarding the chip, and that this is a really bad one on air / water. As of now i've only been able to get it up to 4.5Ghz. It was rock stable @ 4.5Ghz with 1.3v (I have not tried anything lower, and started @ 1.3v to have it stable), after that it went all crap. Tried 5Ghz with everything up to 1.45v, nothing. Crashed with the windows loading every time, same story with 4.8Ghz at the same voltages.

I've flashed the Max V Gene to 0701, but did not help much. I've tried PPL up to 1.9v, i've tried VCCIO up to 1.1v and i've tried Vcore up to 1.45v nothing helps past 4.8Ghz.

Also we can conclude that IB produces A LOT of heat. @ 1.4v i got a load temp of mid 50's, that is with a dual GTX 360 radiator in 6c ambient, water temp was no problem and usually stayed ~10-14c.
With the same setup i was able to keep a 2600k with HT and 1.63V under 65c, that was also with 3x 6970 @ 1.4v in the same loop. So far LN2 seems to be the only hope for this chip, trow 1.8v+ at it and hope it scales like a god with cold temps.

As for the SB Vs IB testing it's coming along great. I'm done with Stock and 4.5Ghz tests on the 3570K, i originally wanted to do a 5Ghz comparison as well, but that is not possible ATM.

I will post the results as soon as i'm done with the 2600k tests, but now i need to hit the bed, have a couple of classes that's starting in 7 hours.

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@ Eggy88, Hi man, thanks for the info! not trying to be an ass or anything but do you know what settings you need to change for Asus mobos? for example vcore switching freq, pase control, pll overvolatage etc? i'm asking this because you own UD7 mobo, which is really different from Asus regarding BIOS settings.

I have a litle clue, used to bench on the MIIF before, and has another buy helping me that is pretty used to LN2 runs and benching on Asus Max boards, but any help is welcome, if you could write a litle post about the different things to look at i'll be happy to test that out.
[...]

All I have a is a SB on Z68, but the hangup at Windows splash is what happens when PLL Overvoltage needs to be enabled.

PLL overvoltage is ofc enabled, i've also bumped the PPL up to 1.9v without any luck.

I will post my bios settings once i come home and i'll be happy to take advices on what to change.
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I dought you will see any bad things in any form from people who get chips sent to them,maybe thats why no real air tests.
Air does not sell ln2 numbers do.it happens every time on new launches
So just weed out the bs" commercals" that some post
It seems 4.6 air is what has been posted by more then one person being ":max:"
Sry op for ot
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All I have a is a SB on Z68, but the hangup at Windows splash is what happens when PLL Overvoltage needs to be enabled.
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ive gotten my chip stable 4.8ghz @ 1.225V with temps of about 60-70 load. some benches smile.gif
ive tried going up to 5ghz but i needed 1.3 to boot, and 1.35 to start testing without instant bsod. temps skyrocketed so i didnt really go on for stability testing.
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Nice, could you PM me your bios settings so that i can compare them agains mine. I've had no luck at anything over 4.5Ghz even with WAY higher voltage than your running.
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Will these support hackintosh smile.gif
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Nice, could you PM me your bios settings so that i can compare them agains mine. I've had no luck at anything over 4.5Ghz even with WAY higher voltage than your running.

Better yet, just post the setting here so we can take a look and maybe see if something looks good or bad.
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Looks like ivy = sb w/300mhz advantage. So if you have a 4.8ghz sb, ivy seems to match it at 4.5ghz. Still early to call it. I'm worried about temps.
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