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That is way beyond what my chip is capable of doing ATM, i'm failing Prime95 @ 4.5Ghz with 1.32v
Another update on the first post.
- Uploaded the 4.5Ghz Sandybridge benchmarks.
- Redone 3.4Ghz Sandybridge and 4.5Ghz Ivy Bridge benchmarks due to different ram timings
- Updated the summarize section.

ATM all clock for clock benchmarks are done.
The thing is that in 3Dmark11 i am getting 2.27% lower score with IB @ 4.5 then with SB @ 4.5. I had to redo the 4.5Ghz IB tests because the ram timings was not matching the SB timings, and by doing that i raised the average score by ~500 points, but even after this i'm getting lower score. I did 10 runs on both cpu's and checked that ram timings, ram freq and everything was matching, but the gap was still there. (punech could you do couple of 4.5Ghz 3dMark11 physics tests and check your scores? I'm running my ram @ 1600Mhz 9-9-9-24 2T so try to get as close to that as possible.
I'm hopefully getting started with comparing temperatures on a fixed voltage between 2600K HT off and the 3570K, after that i will see what i can do about my max clocks on the 3570K.

Is the processor throttling?
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Is the processor throttling?

Not a chance load temps @ 1.3v is in the mid 50's (15c water temps)
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Through taobao?

http://s.taobao.com/search?cat=110203&q=3770k
http://s.taobao.com/search?cat=110203&q=3570k

I'm seeing 77W in some specs and yet some are saying 95W .......
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Ok... Now before you all go off shouting "Yo AMD fanboy... get the frag outta here!", I have legitimate questions for you all. See, my son runs an Intel rig loaded with the ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 mobo paired to the i5-2400 Sandy Bridge. He is thinking about upgrading and is starting to itch in overclocking (I knew I'd bring him to the dark side!) it. He had been mentioning to me about upgrading to the 2600K. I told him to hold off until IB came out.

In seeing Eggy88's comparison numbers (thanks btw... + rep to you!) I am now wondering about something that I need you guys to comment on for me. Would it really be worth it to move up to the IB at this point? Seems like the overall performance increase between the 2600K and the 3750 is in the 4% range and I can't help but wonder if a gaming non-OC'er (like my son) would really notice the performance increase in that low of a percentage. Oh, btw... his rig is cooled by the CM 212+.

Thanks for your thoughts on the matter and my apologies if I am posting in the wrong place... but this is where the comparison numbers I am looking at are.
    
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Ok... Now before you all go off shouting "Yo AMD fanboy... get the frag outta here!", I have legitimate questions for you all. See, my son runs an Intel rig loaded with the ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 mobo paired to the i5-2400 Sandy Bridge. He is thinking about upgrading and is starting to itch in overclocking (I knew I'd bring him to the dark side!) it. He had been mentioning to me about upgrading to the 2600K. I told him to hold off until IB came out.
In seeing Eggy88's comparison numbers (thanks btw... + rep to you!) I am now wondering about something that I need you guys to comment on for me. Would it really be worth it to move up to the IB at this point? Seems like the overall performance increase between the 2600K and the 3750 is in the 4% range and I can't help but wonder if a gaming non-OC'er (like my son) would really notice the performance increase in that low of a percentage. Oh, btw... his rig is cooled by the CM 212+.
Thanks for your thoughts on the matter and my apologies if I am posting in the wrong place... but this is where the comparison numbers I am looking at are.

Note that this comparison is with HT turned off on the 2600k to have 4c/4t, i have a couple of 3770K chips on the way and if i have the time i'll try to do a little comparison with that against the 2600k with HT On to see how the HT is on Ivy Bridge, i doubt it will be a large comparison like this one, but you never know.

I would wait and see how the large number of Ivy Bridge chips turn out, there is not a lot of numbers on air/water out there, so i would wait a month or so and see when the large numbers start rolling out, it's the large numbers that will give a true insight in how IB overclocks on air and water, but ATM it's not looking to good.
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is there any thread, test 2500k vs 2600k ht off,at same clock ? just to see the 2mb difference between same and updated architecture (2500K vs 2600K ht of vs 2600K ht on vs 3570K )
can you include in the test 3570K vs 2600K with hyperT on,hope will be tri-way comparison (just saw that you'll have 3770K 0n 18. smile.gif )
want to see if it will be enough reason yo update my 2500k to something from IB above. smile.gif

P.S. interesting that performance difference is small ,+ sb does not support the boost from ram speed (1333 mhz to 1600 mhz) .
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Ok... Now before you all go off shouting "Yo AMD fanboy... get the frag outta here!", I have legitimate questions for you all. See, my son runs an Intel rig loaded with the ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 mobo paired to the i5-2400 Sandy Bridge. He is thinking about upgrading and is starting to itch in overclocking (I knew I'd bring him to the dark side!) it. He had been mentioning to me about upgrading to the 2600K. I told him to hold off until IB came out.
In seeing Eggy88's comparison numbers (thanks btw... + rep to you!) I am now wondering about something that I need you guys to comment on for me. Would it really be worth it to move up to the IB at this point? Seems like the overall performance increase between the 2600K and the 3750 is in the 4% range and I can't help but wonder if a gaming non-OC'er (like my son) would really notice the performance increase in that low of a percentage. Oh, btw... his rig is cooled by the CM 212+.
Thanks for your thoughts on the matter and my apologies if I am posting in the wrong place... but this is where the comparison numbers I am looking at are.

well the difference in performance is indeed quite small. first of all you seem to have to be lucky on a good chip/bin, which so far ive only seen my own chip reach SB comparable speeds at decent temperatures. not every SB will overclock high either, but it seems a bit more.. safe...
Then it really depends on the prices of the processors in your country. i upgraded from a i5 760 so i needed a motherboard anyway. in that case, going for a z77+ivy bridge chip will enable the lucid virtu mvp. and since the internal gpu of the IB is 50-60% stronger than the internal gpu in the sandy bridge processors this will give another(tiny) performance boost. (i myself havent really played around with it much but reviews are online in other places). for me the IB chip was only 20 euro(10%) more expensive than the sandy bridge counterpart. since the i5 760 is still 200 euro here i figured the i5 2500k prices werent really going to drop here either. so i figured the extra 20 euro was worth it.

In general Ivy bridge wont really give alot of performance over sandy bridge if left at stock on a z68 motherboard, and tbh it isnt really worth the upgrade over the i5 2400. if you are going to overclock it, the increase from i5 2400@3.3 to a 3570k/3770k@ 4.2-4.5 will be quite big just because of the overclock. then again the increase from a i5@3.3ghz to an i5/i7 sandy bridge @ 4.2-4.5 will be "almost" just as big. it still depends on the rest of your sons setup though. if the cpu isnt even limiting the fps in his games than an upgrade will do nothing.
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is there any thread, test 2500k vs 2600k ht off,at same clock ? just to see the 2mb difference between same and updated architecture (2500K vs 2600K ht of vs 2600K ht on vs 3570K )
can you include in the test 3570K vs 2600K with hyperT on,hope will be tri-way comparison (just saw that you'll have 3770K 0n 18. smile.gif )
want to see if it will be enough reason yo update my 2500k to something from IB above. smile.gif

Don't really know what the difference is in terms of performance with 2mb extra cache, but i'll do some more tests with and without HT on both once i get the 3770K, and we will see.
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if the cpu isnt even limiting the fps in his games than an upgrade will do nothing.

TRUE!!! I need to consider this part. Now that you mentioned this, his big gaming experience is World of Warcraft and I believe he will not see any big improvements at this time. he is using the GTX550Ti and it's not bad at all. I have a feeling that we will wait a bit longer to see how the IB's pan out.

As for me... Waiting on Piledriver. Already have an investment made in my rig. if that fails to increase performance dramatically, then I may switch over to SB/SB-E.
    
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