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Originally Posted by Sujeto 1 View Post

And Paid Intel members here are calling me" troll" and "garbage" because im saying first what all the people and reputable websites are realizing, that Ivy Bridge is a peace of garbage useless that's doesn't worth to buy even for old rig owner because there is a lot of options outhere (intel or amd). now you two go for your check at the bank.

stop trolling or stop posting garbage.
/end

thats why from the chinese site that bench the 3770k i think at 4,8 he said that ivy was better than his sb at 5,2?
Edited by sugarhell - 4/18/12 at 3:35am
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And Paid Intel members here are calling me" troll" and "garbage" because im saying first what all the people and reputable websites are realizing, that Ivy Bridge is a peace of garbage useless that's doesn't worth to buy even for old rig owner because there is a lot of options outhere (intel or amd). now you two go for your check at the bank.

What? wth.gif
Ivy gives gains from 5% to 15% increase over SB. Just because it runs hotter doesn't mean it worse. If it can handle the heat, stay in the kitchen. wink.gif
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So, for a mild OC (4.3-4.5, depending on temps) would 8+4 phases be enough (assus Z77 V) or 12+4 be required (asus Z77 v-Pro)? £20 difference which is a useful amount, but not so much as to break the bank, how did it work out for SB?

I opted for the Asrock fatal1ty Z77 pro 18+8 power phase and managed to get my year old 2500k over 5ghz stable for the first time.
Previous best was 4.8 @ 1.45v on P67 Now im at 5ghz 1.4v

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I opted for the Asrock fatal1ty Z77 pro 18+8 power phase and managed to get my year old 2500k over 5ghz stable for the first time.
Previous best was 4.8 @ 1.45v on P67 Now im at 5ghz 1.4v
Get the best you can afford thumb.gif

Agreed, the BEST no the WORST you can afford.

LOL oh my god this forum is so obviously sponsored, Ok im gonna shut up rigthnow for respect to older members, any way if intel launching a bad processor as i think, people will realize it soon or later. Evidence is here.
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Actually, the only reason that Ivy can go so much higher is because it has a much higher multiplier. SB was limited to 53x, so it was impossible to go much over 5.4GHz. The max multi on Ivy is much higher, not sure on the exact number; but that's why they can clock so much higher; they would do the same on a z68 board.

53? http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1942297

Yeah, just saying no two manufactured mobos or processors are perfectly identical...manufacturing tolerances...and not all mobos and cpu's will perform identically.

Sujeto 1; Give us a break. These guys here are not paid. Maybe fanboys, but not paid. I think you are overstating your case just slightly.
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53? http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1942297
Yeah, just saying no two manufactured mobos or processors are perfectly identical...manufacturing tolerances...and not all mobos and cpu's will perform identically.

Whoops, 56, 57, it's under 60 whatever it is; and while I agree about that point, a high end motherboard from z68 or z77 will likely push the same clocks on either chip provided they are of equal quality.

EDIT: Also, SB hated the cold whereas Ivy loves it, which I possibly should have mentioned in my initial post, but that tends to help a lot too!
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Agreed, the BEST no the WORST you can afford.
LOL oh my god this forum is so obviously sponsored, Ok im gonna shut up rigthnow for respect to older members, any way if intel launching a bad processor as i think, people will realize it soon or later. Evidence is here.

Jackass.
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I opted for the Asrock fatal1ty Z77 pro 18+8 power phase and managed to get my year old 2500k over 5ghz stable for the first time.
Previous best was 4.8 @ 1.45v on P67 Now im at 5ghz 1.4v
Get the best you can afford thumb.gif

I suppose I should have expected that, V-pro just for the extra power phases as I don't need more sata etc. its stress it less I suppose even if I don't clock it so high that I need them.

Don't burn me as a heretic just because I don't want to go to extreme smile.gif

I wish I was sponsored, and if anyone doubts whether I am a shill, look to my posts on toms, yes I'm new here and have a low post count, here, but i've been posting for a good long while (mostly troubleshooting). In my opinion, its a clock for clock increase, and the new process hasn't panned out as well as they expected when operating outside of stock. Remember the old days when getting beyond stock was a bonus and difficult, and chips were as expensive if not more expensive?
 
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Hmmm, interesting how the idle temps are much higher for Ivy Bridge regardless of voltage. Yet it evens out with its idle temperature when going from 1.2 to 1.3. Weird.

Note that the Idle temps are not of importance and the temp on 3 of my 3570K cores is all over the place (at idle showing 0-8c with 13c water) The load temps @ 20 and 40min should be pretty comparable.
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I dont know if anyone has mentioned this but the 2600K has got 2mb of extra cache compared to the 2500k, so even with HT off it isnt the equivalent counterpart to the 3570K
Whether this makes a visible difference I'm unsure, but with the productivity apps you are using I would assume the extra 2mb would mean something.

This has been posted, and i was aware of this from the beginning, i only have 2600K's at hand so that had to do, i'm expecting a couple of 3770K's in a day or two and will disable HT on that and compare it to the 3570K to see how much difference the extra 2mb cache does.
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So the people with IB already... What are your BIOS settings? What are you enabling/disabling in the processor tab?
Back when I last overclocked, everyone disabled speedstep/turbo and all those other features, but it seems now many people just leave everything on default and start overclocking. What's the case with IB? I'm not exactly looking forward to learn UEFI bios for the first time. Haven't overclocked in over 2 years, i'm rusty. Would like a good "starting point". rolleyes.gif

It's not bad the UEFI bios, i am an old timer and have never wanted to learn the UEFI bios, but it's quite simple. I have all the usual things off, C1E, Speed Step, C3/C6 report. I know people say it's no point in turning it off, but i just hate having the cpu throttle when idle makes me think it is slower tongue.gif

Also the reduction in power the few hours of the day it is idle does not save much money. if it cuts the power with 50% 5 hours of the day / 7 days a week / 52 weeks of the year, that adds up to ~10$ a year so what's the point.
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Actually, the only reason that Ivy can go so much higher is because it has a much higher multiplier. SB was limited to 53x, so it was impossible to go much over 5.4GHz. The max multi on Ivy is much higher, not sure on the exact number; but that's why they can clock so much higher; they would do the same on a z68 board.

Not even close brah, SB is limited to 59x, IB to 63x (the bios limits this) Max clock on IB is ATM 1Ghz over the max clock on SB, and without any new bios fixes we wont see much of that from IB. It's atm 63x112 or something like that and not many boards do over 112 bclk.
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@Eggy: Great info man. This is what OCN is all about. thumb.gif

Out of curiosity, could you do some comparisons using your 3xGPU's in graphic benches? Perhaps Heaven and Tropico benches - if you have the time.

Would be interesting to see how Ivy handles that much GPU power vs Sandy.

Thanks and cheers, -SS
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