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+ the fact that Creative's master volume introduces software created distortion past 55%, while it's 76% on Asus Xonars.

is it the volume knobs in their control panel software respectively? does it also happen to lower end xonar cards like xonar d1?
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All amplification distorts at some point, it's called clipping and can happen on every sound card.
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Can anyone here who has HONESTLY compared a Xonar STX to something like an X-Fi chime in on whether there is a noticeable difference?

Just depends on what you're listening to.
If your a heavy music listener, go with the STX. If not, go with whatever you can afford.

Some people will say STX or nothing, but most people who buy them don't take advantage of the extra features.
They realize they overpaid for it and now they're trying to sell in the forums.

When I had an STX, I didn't like it for my bass heavy music. It produces a very neutral sound IMO. The Titanium HD delivered more of a punch in hip-hop music and gaming. Remember, audio impressions is very subjective so there isn't any one size fits all device. People can look at spec numbers all they want, but it comes down to listening to the device yourself and making decision from there. Looking at pictures and saying is looks silly has nothing to do with the audio performance. If it WOWs at a good price, people will buy regardless of looks.
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Ok Audio Editor opinion time:
Quoted dB dynamic range means nothing as all they are quoting is the DAC chip's technical specs. It all depends on the environment it's in and how the well engineered the circuit is.
Would like to see AP measurements of ithis, looks promising, but really, it's all speculation atm, even with the press release. With current information, Asus may actually have a decent compeitior for gaming vs. Creative but all speculation atm.
If they can reduce the output impedance of the TI amp to below 4 ohm, that would be great but I doubt it would happen because the vast majority of gamers don't care / don't know what output impedance is and it's impact on sound quality.

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Just depends on what you're listening to.
If your a heavy music listener, go with the STX. If not, go with whatever you can afford.
Some people will say STX or nothing, but most people who buy them don't take advantage of the extra features.
They realize they overpaid for it and now they're trying to sell in the forums.
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Some times people forget that both have op-amps and its the default op-amps that gives them the sound signature that they might not be looking for. Those op-amps can be changed to other op-amps that does.
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So if Asus and Creatives support is crap, what sound cards should we buy instead??
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The thing is not every one has issues with the drivers, just because one person is having issue do not mean another one is too. I did have issues but they was minor but nothing big with creative drivers, Same with Asus drivers. Nothing that would stop me from being able to use the cards.

I wouldn't worried about something not working because one group of people mention as you might not even have the issue.
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I still have my Auzuntech Prelude with modded oamps kicking. biggrin.gif
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The thing is not every one has issues with the drivers, just because one person is having issue do not mean another one is too. I did have issues but they was minor but nothing big with creative drivers, Same with Asus drivers. Nothing that would stop me from being able to use the cards.

I had terrible ASUS Xonar issues.
Especially when I wanted true 5.1 sound. The drivers (at the time) were just upmixing 2.1 for some damn reason even from real 5.1 sources. Was happening with everyone. Next driver revisions didnt fix it, so I dropped the card.
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Some times people forget that both have op-amps and its the default op-amps that gives them the sound signature that they might not be looking for. Those op-amps can be changed to other op-amps that does.

Good point.
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Recd the Xonar Phoebus yesterday and installed it last night. At first I thought that it was definitely better than my USB headset setup but maybe not really worth the money. Played with the settings and found the EQ/gaming settings. Turning on the EQ did to my ears what Kate Upton doing the Cat Daddy dance did to my biggrin.gif ... Anyways, I am extremely impressed with the positional awareness. I've played over 380 hours on BF3 and I'm hearing sounds I've never heard before. Blew me away!

Running them with Beyerdynamic DT880's in 600 Ohms

Yes im an audio noob. Yes I fell for the marketing gimmick. But I'm extremely happy with the results. thumb.gif

I highly recommend it to anyone that was thinking of getting it.

Oh yeah, music sounds pretty damn good as well.
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