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Originally Posted by Domino View Post

You see how ridiculous battery life is on the iPad3?

I get a solid 9 hours with my iPad (with multitude of apps and 80%+ brightness, and everyone else seems to get the same 9+ hours. The recharging is long (~4hrs), but still not an issue.

As a trade-off you get the best mobile display, bar none; fantastic resolution and ppi for extreme crispness and clarity and a better IPS panel which has the truest color accuracy, and one of the best contrast levels with a great brightness level, all on a mobile display.
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Back to the topic though. I think higher PPI displays are a must, but anything past 180-200 is a waste IMO.

It's not true to say that anything over 200 is a waste, because the limits of human vision are well known (50 cycles per degree) and factoring the optimal distance of usage of a product, we can determine what the optimal PPI should be. So 200 PPI can be useless for some products but needed for others.

As an example, a smartphone should have 300ppi+ to have indistinguishable pixels to the human eye at the normal use distance. Of course for a tablet and a laptop the PPI should be lower than a smartphone (probably around 270 and 200 respectively; I'm just approximating) but still it should be above 200ppi. A monitor should have 150PPI and above, and a TV should perhaps be over 80ppi.

But as I said it all depends on the distance you use it; 300 PPI on a TV would be an utter waste, but for a smartphone it's quite necessary. Same for 200ppi, on a laptop it will make a clear difference, but on a TV definitely not.
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And yet we can't get a decent 27" monitor @ 1440p/1600p 120hz!! rolleyes.gif
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Sexy Retina displays for all.
intel_retina_displays_2013.jpg

from left to right: iphone, ipad, macbook air, macbook pro, iMac.

You people will still say Apple never innovated even after they have hiDPI across there entire product line............
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3840 x 2160 yeah ok.
It my sound stupid but what will better res do for us games? Last i checked games run better in Native screen Resolution. Upscaling kills the game. I am having hard enough time pushing 1440p gaming let alone 2160p.

You're not being forced to buy these displays. It will push GPU makers to move ahead faster, and drive down the cost of monitors that are 1080p/1440p/etc. I fail to see the downside to stuff like this.
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Considering a single GTX680 or an HD7970 already has adequate performance across 3 1080p screens, 3840x2160 shouldn't be that difficult to render (it's only 33% more pixels, which really isn't THAT much more - it's like the difference between 1600x900 and 1920x1080).
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Considering a single GTX680 or an HD7970 already has adequate performance across 3 1080p screens, 3840x2160 shouldn't be that difficult to render (it's only 33% more pixels, which really isn't THAT much more - it's like the difference between 1600x900 and 1920x1080).

It's actually much more than 33% more pixels.

1920x1080 is 2,073,600 pixels
3840x2160 is 8,294,400 pixels, which is about 300% more pixels.

That's a similar percentage difference than the difference between 1920x1080 and 800x600.
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I said 3 1080p displays, like in an Eyefinity setup. wink.gif

3 x 1920 x 1080 = 6220800

6220800 x 1.33... = 8294400
 
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I said 3 1080p displays, like in an Eyefinity setup. wink.gif
3 x 1920 x 1080 = 6220800
6220800 x 1.33... = 8294400

Ah, yea my mistake. Indeed, it's not a huge leap from a 3 monitor setup, it'll give GPUs a new performance bar to strive towards, they've been targeting PC games made for consoles for the last 7 years, they need something new and fresh.
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Agreed. For the love of god, please don't!
Am I the only one that thinks we have plenty of pixels already? I'd rather have fewer pixels and not require a gpu to be working overtime just to push that many pixels, and instead be able to have better graphical performance with fewer pixels.

as much as you guys want to facepalm against this guy, i actually agree with him

I myself have a 1080p screen, and I think it's plenty

I dont prefer to get monitors with higher resolution than that, not because I don't want to, but because I'm a gamer

So beside popular good looking games like crysis 1+2 and BF3, how many games are there exactly that can MAKE USE OF that resolution well?


My point is, if the games can't even get there, why bother try running before you can even walk?

Tell the developers to fix their game's graphics and optimization before we can talk about higher resolution monitors please, especially now that we are console limited in a lot of game titles
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Ah, yea my mistake. Indeed, it's not a huge leap from a 3 monitor setup, it'll give GPUs a new performance bar to strive towards, they've been targeting PC games made for consoles for the last 7 years, they need something new and fresh.

It would help if consoles actually tried to be consoles and not dumbed-down PCs. rolleyes.gif

Especially nowadays since smart phones and tablets are looking to be a more accurate depiction of what "dumbed-down PC" even means.
 
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