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My point is, if the games can't even get there, why bother try running before you can even walk?

That's close to my original thought as well...

...we need better GPUs to be able to push those pixels!!!

I also have a 1080p 27" monitor, but I am more interested in upgrading to 120hz than a higher resolution.
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as much as you guys want to facepalm against this guy, i actually agree with him
I myself have a 1080p screen, and I think it's plenty
I dont prefer to get monitors with higher resolution than that, not because I don't want to, but because I'm a gamer
So beside popular good looking games like crysis 1+2 and BF3, how many games are there exactly that can MAKE USE OF that resolution well?
My point is, if the games can't even get there, why bother try running before you can even walk?
Tell the developers to fix their game's graphics and optimization before we can talk about higher resolution monitors please, especially now that we are console limited in a lot of game titles

There's a lot of use in higher-resolution displays outside of gaming, the most obvious to me being photography. Also, having a 2160p display means that both 720p AND 1080p can natively map to your screen WITHOUT interpolation. Even better, a 3840x2400 display can perfectly map those resolutions along with 1920x1200, 1280x800, 1600x1200, 800x600, and 640x480 - something that hasn't been possible since the CRT days.
 
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This is just gonna make it worse when people try and play games on their integrated gpus? Seems pointless since 1080p video already takes up a lot of disk space.
While i would like higher res for my desktop, this is just gonna make words and icons too small on those tiny screens, not to mention websites.

For the 3rd time now...
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Me thinks more people need to understand the concept of resolution independence.
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Just because you have a 3840x2160 display doesn't mean you HAVE to use that resolution in everything. If you're worried about performance, 1920x1080 or even 1280x720 would look fine assuming the upscaler used wasn't ignorant of exact multiples.

Thanks for sharing your opinion. Stop acting like it is fact. Cheers!
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Thanks for sharing your opinion. Stop acting like it is fact. Cheers!

How is resolution independence an opinion? headscratch.gif Pretty much all modern games use it...
 
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Kinda defeats the purpose of having more pixels then...
I understand you can circumvent some of the hardware rendering requirements by addressing upsampling algorithms (again, you can--but who is working on this yet?). But still, why is this actually necessary? Why do you need this on a 10" tablet or even a 15" laptop? Is is just so you don't see pixelation in rendered images? If so, you generally sit so far away from a display that your eye doesn't even have the ability to resolve the pixel pitch at even 1650x1050 resolution much less 1080p and higher. Of course if your eyes are like 6" away, you can, but who uses any computer device like that?

Open pant program.

Draw a line across the screen at a slight angle.

See jaggies.

I have to move NINE FEET away from my 15" 1366x768 laptop screen (irony, I know) before the jaggies start to blur together. If we want to get rid of jaggies altogether, 4Kx2K on a 15" screen still isn't enough (but it's close enough for me).

I'll agree that this kind of resolution will not be very useful for people who just use their computer for text. Everything else will benefit though.

Hi...I would like to introduce you to this thing we like to call AA. It is used on so many applications that I'm confused on how you have never noticed this before.

Retina displays looks blurry to me for some reason. Anyone else notice this on the new iPad?
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Thanks for sharing your opinion. Stop acting like it is fact. Cheers!

How is resolution independence an opinion? headscratch.gif Pretty much all modern games use it...

Thanks again for your opinion!
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Um... I'm gonna have to ask the peanut gallery here if Domino is just trying to pull my leg or something...

I mean, last time I checked, running a game at 1280x720 and 1920x1080 displayed everything at the same relative size while increasing visual detail and clarity, which is the definition of resolution independence.

Did I miss a memo or something? headscratch.gif
 
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Um... I'm gonna have to ask the peanut gallery here if Domino is just trying to pull my leg or something...

I mean, last time I checked, running a game at 1280x720 and 1920x1080 displayed everything at the same relative size while increasing visual detail and clarity, which is the definition of resolution independence.

Did I miss a memo or something? headscratch.gif

You missed the memo reminding you that everyone else on OCN knows everything about everything, and that stating your opinion is a crime.
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Lawl. tongue.gif

But the problem is that don't understand where I am even stating something regarding resolution independence that is an opinion in the first place.
 
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But the problem is that don't understand where I am even stating something regarding resolution independence that is an opinion in the first place.

No worries, you're indeed correct, the monitor handles the upscaling with no impact on software. The only downside is if you're not scaling by a power of two ratio you will notice blurring.
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