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post #81 of 155
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It would just run slower though, right?
post #82 of 155
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It would just run slower though, right?

It all depends on the bandwidth speeds of your PCI-e slots. In your case, does it really matter? tongue.gif

If you're not failing for awhile when you test the new slot, you're going to have to RMA the board. If you do, you're going to have to RMA the card. Either way, you're going to be out of a computer for some time during this ordeal (unless of course you're going to use onboard video). Regardless, the idea of having slightly less performance at this time shouldn't be your biggest concern.
post #83 of 155
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So I have a huge problem with my case / card / motherboard.

The second slot feels to be deeper in the case. The card bracket hits the mount on the case and won't let me insert the card fully into the slot (or so it feels). It also appears to be diagonal with the far right side of the card hitting the motherboard heatsinks. I've pushed the back of the case in to line up with the mounting bracket, but when the screw is in and I let go of the case, it looks as if it's going to rip the right end of the card out of the motherboard.

So, left side is in but not completely due to the bracket being "too short" and the right side is able to be fully inserted but gets pulled out and left due to the back mounting area of my case being so tight.

It is similar in the first slot but I didn't notice it as much.

CardSlotIssues.jpg

I will run some tests and games to see how the second slot works out.

Am I able to raise the mobo off the back of the case a bit more somehow?

Update: I ran Sims 3 and played for a while with no issues. I ran FurMark and everything was fine. But when I tried to run AIDA64 with all system components and GPU stress testing, it crashed the Nvidia drivers again, or the Kernal. I don't know if it's the program or the card. Shouldn't I see artifacts in OCScanner if the card is the problem? But I don't... I guess I'll just keep trying to get it to crash again.

I'm also getting a weird window dragging glitch:

DraggingWindow.jpg

This is so impossible.
Edited by Cyanide89 - 4/20/12 at 8:15pm
post #84 of 155
I'm still saying it's the card since you've done a clean Windows install / driver reinstallations. Every symptom so far too is GPU related, or drive related, but since you have reformatted and installed many different driver versions, I HIGHLY DOUBT it's software at this point.

I mean, I've taken a look at a boatload of dumps from you at this point, and we're seeing 116 TDR bugchecks. Now, 116 TDR bugchecks are VERY straight forward, so hopefully EVGA will understand that when you explain to them what's going on. A 116 VIDEO_TDR bugcheck means that the system could not recover from the display driver crashing, so it threw you the bugcheck. When the system CAN recover however, that's when you'll see "display driver has stopped responding, but has successfully recovered", that's when you DON'T get the bugcheck. Things that can cause 116 are drivers (which we've COVERED), software in general (WHICH WE'VE COVERED), memory (covered), you name it.. we've covered it all.

The only thing left to go is the GPU itself, so if you're still getting 116 after countless driver changes / reformats, this is the card.

Also, do you have Aero disabled / did a test make Windows disable Aero transparency? It's set to Basic in that screenshot.

Regardless, I'd really like to see another crash dump at this point, especially to see if it's 116. So please let me know when you get one! During all of this ordeal though, I would still pursue the RMA of your GPU.
Edited by pjBSOD - 4/20/12 at 8:26pm
post #85 of 155
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Believe me, I would love to just stick it to the GPU and have this whole thing over and done with; however, I ran IntelBurnTest while rendering a movie in After Effects and playing the Sims 3 in 3D... slow as hell, hot as hell... but no crash.

Is it not possible, or logical, to say that the first PCI-E slot on my motherboard is bad? Or does that fact that I'm getting Nvidia driver / kernel errors automatically rule out the motherboard?

Is there nothing I can do to definitively rule out the motherboard as the culprit?
post #86 of 155
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Believe me, I would love to just stick it to the GPU and have this whole thing over and done with; however, I ran IntelBurnTest while rendering a movie in After Effects and playing the Sims 3 in 3D... slow as hell, hot as hell... but no crash.
Is it not possible, or logical, to say that the first PCI-E slot on my motherboard is bad? Or does that fact that I'm getting Nvidia driver / kernel errors automatically rule out the motherboard?
Is there nothing I can do to definitively rule out the motherboard as the culprit?

Absolutely, a malfunctioning PCI-e slot can and will produce crashes. If you're not crashing in the second slot, but crashing in the first, it's the first slot. If you're crashing in both, it's the card, or both slots if you're that unlucky!

Another thing that can cause TDR bugchecks is PSU (failing to handle voltages under load / failure to switch between load voltages and idle voltages as it should be).
post #87 of 155
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I just bought this PSU... how can I test it? It is showing a solid 12V in game, and at idle it's 12.019 - 12.192V.
post #88 of 155
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I just bought this PSU... how can I test it? It is showing a solid 12V in game, and at idle it's 12.019 - 12.192V.

Well, it's not really the voltages that do it all really, it could be a problem with the rail(s) too, etc. If you have access to a multi meter, you can test your PSU.
post #89 of 155
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Ok I think it's the motherboard. I've been playing for a while now and no crash. I'm going to put the card back into slot 1 and see if it crashes again.
post #90 of 155
Go for it.
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