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I have Ivy questions even at the cost of sounding dumb. Please be kind.

Dosen't IB support native PCIe 3.0 graphics? With Z77 mobo won't the full potential of PCIe 3.0 be better in IB over SB?

Is this claim mean that an over clocked i7 2700K is better than or compare to a I7 3770?

Does the Sandy Bridge CPU utilize PCIe 3.0 capabilities? I guess I'm really uninformed about PCIe 3.0 graphics I'm shooting for. Any advice would be great.
     
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Tri-Gate is suppose to reduce any leakage. Maybe Intel is pulling a Bulldozer. biggrin.gif

more like Intel is pulling a Pentium 4 tongue.gif
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I think this is something that we've already known or at least could have guessed for a while now.

Everything from lots of high clocked chips on LN2 (usually high leakage) and chips showing high temps to Kyle and VR-Zone saying they aren't so good for air/water has been pointing at this.

I guess the question now is does the retail stepping still OC high even for benching?
 
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Originally Posted by Arizonian View Post

I have Ivy questions even at the cost of sounding dumb. Please be kind.
Dosen't IB support native PCIe 3.0 graphics? With Z77 mobo won't the full potential of PCIe 3.0 be better in IB over SB?
Is this claim mean that an over clocked i7 2700K is better than or compare to a I7 3770?
Does the Sandy Bridge CPU utilize PCIe 3.0 capabilities? I guess I'm really uninformed about PCIe 3.0 graphics I'm shooting for. Any advice would be great.

1. Ivy Bridge does have native PCIe 3.0 support.
2. Sandy bridge doesn't support PCIe 3.0 so its hard to compare the two in that aspect.
3. We wont know until release day.
4. And no Sandy Bridge comes native with PCIe 2.0 support.

Finally I wouldn't buy a Gen3/Z77 system just for PCIe 3.0, you won't touch PCIe 2.0 bandwidth with just graphics cards. And with PCIe 3.0 improvements you'll be lucky to see 1-2 FPS improvement in games, while using a PCIe 3.0 card.
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Originally Posted by Arizonian View Post

I have Ivy questions even at the cost of sounding dumb. Please be kind.
Dosen't IB support native PCIe 3.0 graphics? With Z77 mobo won't the full potential of PCIe 3.0 be better in IB over SB?
Is this claim mean that an over clocked i7 2700K is better than or compare to a I7 3770?
Does the Sandy Bridge CPU utilize PCIe 3.0 capabilities? I guess I'm really uninformed about PCIe 3.0 graphics I'm shooting for. Any advice would be great.

1. Ivy Bridge does have native PCIe 3.0 support.
2. Sandy bridge doesn't support PCIe 3.0 so its hard to compare the two in that aspect.
3. We wont know until release day.
4. And no Sandy Bridge comes native with PCIe 2.0 support.

Finally I wouldn't buy a Gen3/Z77 system just for PCIe 3.0, you won't touch PCIe 2.0 bandwidth with just graphics cards. And with PCIe 3.0 improvements you'll be lucky to see 1-2 FPS improvement in games, while using a PCIe 3.0 card.

Thanks for that input. That does give me some clarity. thumb.gif

Since I've come this long way of making sure I'm fully PCIe 3.0 compatiable I'm going to stick it out with Ivy after all. Motherboard, GPU and now CPU will be fullly compliant.

Though I do understand that the PCIe 3.0 isn't going to be utilized properly I do feel in a few years from now, sporting the same CPU if there should be some break through I will be ready and future proofed myself a bit from having to upgrade from a i7 2700K which I almost pulled the trigger on.

I read other articles, that confirmed gains at the moment are as minimal as you stated. Yet should something change I'll be ready. I realize for those that coming from SB it may not be worth while to upgrade, I think I'll see some improvement in graphics from my i7 950 4.0Ghz OC. Even if these early trials benching prove to be factual I'm sure I'll still see an increase from graphic scores as I've noticed from i7 950 to i7 2600K on OCN.

Keeping fingers crossed though it might not be a significant OC on the CPU for IB, I'd settle for a modest one that will keep me running for at least three years from now before thiinking of upgrading again.

Thanks again - +1 rep bud. thumb.gif
     
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Lol, judging by the TweakTown review, looks like this was right. 98C @ 4.7GHz under a H100... lol. Not even Bulldozer runs anywhere near that hot overclocked (inb4 OMG IPC IPC IPC IPC IPC IPC IPC IPC IPC i know already)
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Lol, judging by the TweakTown review, looks like this was right. 98C @ 4.7GHz under a H100... lol. Not even Bulldozer runs anywhere near that hot overclocked (inb4 OMG IPC IPC IPC IPC IPC IPC IPC IPC IPC i know already)

Do you think the FX8150 compares to the i7 3770 performance? From what I've read it's about on par with a i7 2500K.

From the sounds of those temps though I don't think 4.7Ghz OC will be a good idea. Will have to settle for less on the OC. Isn't 70C hotter than you'd want any CPU to reach and reamin in a safe zone for longevity with balance of over clocking performance?

CPU's have not been my strong suit. I've recently got my i7 950 to 4.0 Ghz OC after eight months of owning it before I messed with the learning curve enough to accomplish it. LOL.
     
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Do you think the FX8150 compares to the i7 3770 performance? From what I've read it's about on par with a i7 2500K.
From the sounds of those temps though I don't think 4.7Ghz OC will be a good idea. Will have to settle for less on the OC. Isn't 70C hotter than you'd want any CPU to reach and reamin in a safe zone for longevity with balance of over clocking performance?
CPU's have not been my strong suit. I've recently got my i7 950 to 4.0 Ghz OC after eight months of owning it before I messed with the learning curve enough to accomplish it. LOL.

No, the FX-8150 is only good for specialized tasks and even then it almost never emerges victorious against the 2600k. On top of that its power consumption is crazy.

Anyone looking for a gaming CPU in the $200+ range should be looking at the 2500k (or i7 2600k/3820 if this is more of a multi-purpose machine that would see a good performance increase with HyperThreading) without a question.

I don't have much experience with newer Intel CPUs but they seem to handle 70C fine.
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1. Ivy Bridge does have native PCIe 3.0 support.
2. Sandy bridge doesn't support PCIe 3.0 so its hard to compare the two in that aspect.
3. We wont know until release day.
4. And no Sandy Bridge comes native with PCIe 2.0 support.
Finally I wouldn't buy a Gen3/Z77 system just for PCIe 3.0, you won't touch PCIe 2.0 bandwidth with just graphics cards. And with PCIe 3.0 improvements you'll be lucky to see 1-2 FPS improvement in games, while using a PCIe 3.0 card.

Ahem..

htt258

I couldn't believe my eyes either wink.gif
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I got rid of my bulldozer because of the temps, was waiting for Ivy. May stick with what I got until theres a new stepping or something
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