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I don't know much about the CPUs that were released in China, except that they weren't there one day and were there the next, suddenly appearing in a shop.
I don't know if they were actually released there, or that they were stolen from Intel, or maybe it's just another processor with a 3770K sticker on, but a fact is that it's not released yet, and won't be for two more weeks. For all I know these China-CPUs could be leaky, faulty, premature designs from Intel.
I mean, how can you even consider reviewing and benchmarking something that isn't officially out yet (and of which officially and as far as I know, nothing has been produced yet)?
I get reviewing Windows 7 (back in the day) (I'm not talking about W8, hate it) before its actual release date because by the time it actually comes out, everyone of importance already had it, and soooo many alphas, betas, RCs and so on were already released, but that's not been the case with Intel's IB, so how can you even consider reviewing and benchmarking the IB if it hasn't even been released yet?

Odds are the processors have been built and are in the process of being shipped. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the online retailers already had them in the warehouses.


My guess is someone in china snagged a couple dozen from a warehouse they worked at or someone is releasing them early. I bet they are not ES chips and are in fact final production silicon.
 
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......... how can you even consider reviewing and benchmarking the IB if it hasn't even been released yet?


I'm not counting them out yet. I've waited this long, I can wait until a real set of reviews are out.


That considered, what is the way to go with a high end build right now?


I don't have a deadline for completion, and my budget is "flexible". Build is for multi-monitor, high res, multi-gpu gaming.


or


Is there something I can read that would answer these questions?

Sorry if I'm OT or rambling, its late.
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I mean, how can you even consider reviewing and benchmarking something that isn't officially out yet (and of which officially and as far as I know, nothing has been produced yet)?

You have to have a stockpile well before launch.

Intel has been manufacturing the release stepping of Ivy Bridge since late last year.
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99C at 4.7ghz. I think i'll pass on IVB,.
Edited by xoleras - 4/13/12 at 4:19am
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i wonder why all reviews have the chips running on such a high voltage though. a shop nearby is selling them already aswell(3570k's) and i picked one up yesterday.
i overclocked it stable at 4.8ghz@1.21V and during load my temps average 60C-65C like i expected from my cooler. its just in some parts of IBT or Prime that it spikes up to 75-80C for a split second. i think thats what happend in that review aswell and they just noted the max recorded temp. i dunno if its a sensor error, i think it is cause they drop in 0.1 sec back to normal(60-65C) and i doubt my cooler does that.
revision 9 is the e1 stepping(release) as all the ES were revision8(stepping e0) he ran it with the release cpu-z though. the beta one properly recognizes it
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2330186
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i wonder why all reviews have the chips running on such a high voltage though. a shop nearby is selling them already aswell(3570k's) and i picked one up yesterday.
i overclocked it stable at 4.8ghz@1.21V and during load my temps average 60C-65C like i expected from my cooler. its just in some parts of IBT or Prime that it spikes up to 75-80C for a split second. i think thats what happend in that review aswell and they just noted the max recorded temp. i dunno if its a sensor error, i think it is cause they drop in 0.1 sec back to normal(60-65C) and i doubt my cooler does that.

Cool ! An actual witness here guys. Although HT could add a little to the temps.
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a shop nearby is selling them already aswell(3570k's) and i picked one up yesterday. .
If I were Intel, I'd find out which shops started selling ahead of the release date and make sure they were on the crap-list for future chips.
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If I were Intel, I'd find out which shops started selling ahead of the release date and make sure they were on the crap-list for future chips.

China is the wild west, they woudln't be able to stop leaks or early sells.
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i wonder why all reviews have the chips running on such a high voltage though. a shop nearby is selling them already aswell(3570k's) and i picked one up yesterday.
i overclocked it stable at 4.8ghz@1.21V and during load my temps average 60C-65C like i expected from my cooler. its just in some parts of IBT or Prime that it spikes up to 75-80C for a split second. i think thats what happend in that review aswell and they just noted the max recorded temp. i dunno if its a sensor error, i think it is cause they drop in 0.1 sec back to normal(60-65C) and i doubt my cooler does that.
revision 9 is the e1 stepping(release) as all the ES were revision8(stepping e0) he ran it with the release cpu-z though. the beta one properly recognizes it
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2330186

Can you post some screenshots of your desktop while Prime 95 is running?

I'd love to see them, I highly doubt that these chips will run @ 98 degrees at full load at all times.

It wouldn't make sense for them to run 23 degrees hotter than my 45nm CPU.
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People really have no concept of thermodynamics, not even on the 3rd grade science class level.
Sandy Bridge die area = 216mm^2
Ivy Bridge die area = ~160mm^2
Thus Ivy has 74% of the die area, but is rated at 86% of the thermal disipation. Also, probable higher leakage means that power consumption is going to be on a less favorable curve when OCing.
If you are surprised that something gets hotter when you have more heat for a given cooling area, you need to think harder.
I've run many of my i7s in the upper 90s C for dozens or even hundreds of hours straight without any sign of degradation or ill effect.
Also, AMD temps are measured/calculated differently. They don't actually run cooler and aren't actually more vulnerable to high temps.
A die shrink happened.

Pretty smart for a 4th grader. (insults are never a good way to open a statement)

Too bad SB at 32nm puts out so much more heat than its larger die 45nm Lynnfield predecessor wink.gif. Bloomfield (45nm) to SB-E (32nm) comparison doesn't hold water on your simple "die shrink" theory either... There are other architectural forces at work with IB.
Edited by SandShark - 4/13/12 at 4:38am
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