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post #31 of 46
Amllradam, First thing your going to have to take a look at before overclocking is your case. You are going to build up alot of warm air circling threw the case with no Intake and Exhaust fans, Also to add your going to be limited to air coolers. 80mm Exhaust fan isn't going to beable to exhaust all the air form a nice Upgraded push pull Air Cooler for your CPU.
1. Step One ( NEW CASE )
2. Always Over clock on air if you have aren't experinced in the area. Custom Water loops are harder to build then OC your rig and a small water leak could cause alot of damage.
3. Find a safe middle ground. 4.0-4.3 for 8120 on air is safe. Do not try to push it
4. Small steps Do not over clock right to 4.3 and think its stable just cause the computer turns on.

But right now your biggest JUMP is your case.. UPgrade it before you overclock or your going to burn up the CPU.

8120 Safe temps are 61c and under.
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post #32 of 46
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Originally Posted by Projector View Post

True I just dont like the idea of a massive oversized air cooler obstructing blocking my well laid out air flow, and I dont understand why anyone would. I should get the noctua d14 or silver arrow and test it against my Closed loop.

I bet that it would peform close if not the same i thing the closed lood is efective in the right enviroment
post #33 of 46
Click my sig..the "Bong Lover" part ..btw amd4me..da cooling is Y i can get higher clocks..that and skill biggrin.gif
See that chip to the left? That's the 1st chip I overclocked..to keep up w/ Pentium 200s
That there is a 5x86 p75

@OP get a Raystorm block,2 G1/4 3/8 barbs..some zip-ties..and build a miniature evaporative cooling tower biggrin.gif
Edited by Schmuckley - 4/15/12 at 12:10am
 
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H80 can equal top qaulity air coolers while being quite easier to work with smaller, and look ALOT ALOT better, and the h100 well thats just gravy thumb.gif

As the link I posted earlier shows, the H80 does not perform quite as well as the highend HSFs and the H100 just barely exceeds some of the highend HSFs but not all when dual fans are used to match the H100's dual fans. Objective scientific testing separates fact from opinion.

http://www.anandtech.com/print/5054

Again I remind that when we are talking Objective scientific test results the CLCs have no upside compared to a quality HSF. Looks are completley Subjective. When it comes to Subjective merit, everyone must decide what makes them happy.

The technical information presented is for those who want to make an informed technical decision. People should always Buy What Makes Them Happy. That happiness however doesn't change the objective test results.
Edited by AMD4ME - 4/15/12 at 12:14am
post #35 of 46
tests with high cfm fans on the h100 in push pull and the NH-D14 show almost equal results, unless the h100 is getting cool air from the exterior, where it performs a little better. not worth the $30
go with an NH-D14, Havik 140, or get a custom loop.
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post #36 of 46
I don't think this was mentioned yet but it may have been:

If one of Corsair's units ends up leaking under the amazing 5 year warranty that they offer, they will not only replace the unit itself - but they will also replace any components in your PC that it damages due to the leak. thumb.gif

Or so I've read. I've not actually experienced this myself.
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Yes Corsair is reportedly replacing damaged hardware but that doesn't prevent you from needing to rebuild your PC, potential data loss, shipping hardware back and forth and for what ???? when the Corsair CLCs offer no technical advantage over a highend HSF. The thermal inefficiency, increased cost and increased noise in addition to the documented leak liability are precisely why a CLC is a poor choice for most people compared to a highend HSF.

As noted by "phillyd" the CLCs also need to use outside air for best cooling which results in the warm air from the radiator being pushed IN to the case and heating the GPU, RAM, etc. which is not desirable at all.
Edited by AMD4ME - 4/15/12 at 12:29am
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Yes Corsair is reportedly replacing damaged hardware but that doesn't prevent you from needing to rebuild your PC, potential data loss, shipping hardware back and forth and for what ???? when the Corsair CLCs offer no technical advantage over a highend HSF. The thermal inefficiency, increased cost and increased noise in addition to the documented leak liability are precisely why a CLC is a poor choice for most people compared to a highend HSF.
As noted by "phillyd" the CLCs also need to use outside air for best cooling which results in the warm air from the radiator being pushed IN to the case and heating the GPU, RAM, etc. which is not desirable at all.

Yes I agree they may not be the best of the best except in terms of raw temps (but just by a few C in many cases). I agree they are probably not the best in terms of dollar spent/degree reduced in temps, especially if the customer pays more for reduced noise fans, etc.

However..

It's just some people will pay the extra $$ just because they want a "clean" look and don't want a 10lb block of copper hanging off the side of their motherboard lol. wink.gif They'll get the quiet fans if noise is a problem at an extra cost, too. Or maybe they need one of these units because their RAM clearance would be an issue otherwise, or maybe their case can't fit a big heatsink. There's plenty of reasons to get one of the CLC's but you do pay a premium over a regular heatsink for what may not be ideal in noise/risk/etc. And also, the chance of a Corsair unit leaking on your components is just about as possible as your CPU heatsink falling off knocking one of your GPU's out of their PCI-E slot.
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post #39 of 46
As I have stated numerous times, there is nothing wrong with people buying Whatever Makes Them Happy. Some people love the looks of the large HSFs and hate the looks of a radiator and vice versa. Yes I have mentioned the issue of case clearance being a reason for a CLC. RAM clearance can also be an issue though there is no need for top mounted heatsinks on DDR3 RAM.

So YES it's perfectly OK to Buy Whatever Makes You Happy but from a technical perspective there is no technical merit in buying a CLC with all of it's deficiencies if you can fit a quality highend HSF.

Did I mention people should Buy What Makes Them Happy? wink.gif
post #40 of 46
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thanks for all the input i have decided what im am going to do, as regards to my case i know its not the best case but only on a small budget and have already gone over lol i will be replacing it at some point but i have a 120mm aerocool shark fan as exhaust and a 80mm fan on side of my case and they seem to produce an pretty good air flow and there are slots under the front of my case and you can feel the air being sucked though them and also inside the case there a is mounts to fit two more 80mm fan right at front of case so that is always an option i suppose. i have decided that i will air cool my bd with the Xigmtake Aegir and adding another fan. as i have said i am new to overclocking and im a complete novice so i dont think my skills are going to require an water cooled system just yet. and i dont know what the big deal about having a big heatsink is cause i think if you light it up it looks pretty cool

thanks again for all your help it has been much appreciated
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