Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Software News › [GeekoSystem] Court Rules That Code Isn’t Physical And Cannot Be Stolen, Only Copied
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[GeekoSystem] Court Rules That Code Isn’t Physical And Cannot Be Stolen, Only Copied - Page 3

post #21 of 52
the greatest bad news i ever heard
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X5680@4.8GHz 192x25x1.47v EVGA X58 Classified(E759) EVGA GTX980 Ti SLI @1515/8400 6x4GB GSkill Ripjaws@1540 8-8-8-20-2T-1.55v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Corsair Force GT 120GB/OS Corsair Force LS 60GB/PAGE Toshiba 4TB/GAMES CPU-EK Supremacy 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
MB-EK FB Classified GPU-EK FC TitanX/Backplates Rad-Swiftech 360mm MCR-320/Pump Rad-Barrow 280mm 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Ram-Corsair 2x60mm Resevoir-Barrow 250x50mm Misc-6x120mm/2x140mm/NZXT Sentry,Barrow 3/8 fit... Windows 10 Pro x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Seiki 50'' 3840x2160 30hz Logitech G110 EVGA Supernova G2 1300 Lian Li PC-A77F 
MouseMouse PadOtherOther
Logitech G9x Xtrac Ripper XL Logitech G27 Logitech G940 
Other
Xbox One controller 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X5680@4.8GHz 192x25x1.47v EVGA X58 Classified(E759) EVGA GTX980 Ti SLI @1515/8400 6x4GB GSkill Ripjaws@1540 8-8-8-20-2T-1.55v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Corsair Force GT 120GB/OS Corsair Force LS 60GB/PAGE Toshiba 4TB/GAMES CPU-EK Supremacy 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
MB-EK FB Classified GPU-EK FC TitanX/Backplates Rad-Swiftech 360mm MCR-320/Pump Rad-Barrow 280mm 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Ram-Corsair 2x60mm Resevoir-Barrow 250x50mm Misc-6x120mm/2x140mm/NZXT Sentry,Barrow 3/8 fit... Windows 10 Pro x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Seiki 50'' 3840x2160 30hz Logitech G110 EVGA Supernova G2 1300 Lian Li PC-A77F 
MouseMouse PadOtherOther
Logitech G9x Xtrac Ripper XL Logitech G27 Logitech G940 
Other
Xbox One controller 
  hide details  
Reply
post #22 of 52
Not sure what to make of this TBH. I would argue that if you steal code, you MUST make improvements and share said improvements... The open source rule.
Po' Pimpin'
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
i5 2500k @ stock Biostar TZ68K+ [A3] 4GB  Sandforce 1222 64GB SSD 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG 22x DVD-+RW  Stock Windows 7 x64 Acer S211HL 1080p 
PowerCaseMouse
600w Diablotek Linkworld Electronic Inland 
  hide details  
Reply
Po' Pimpin'
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
i5 2500k @ stock Biostar TZ68K+ [A3] 4GB  Sandforce 1222 64GB SSD 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG 22x DVD-+RW  Stock Windows 7 x64 Acer S211HL 1080p 
PowerCaseMouse
600w Diablotek Linkworld Electronic Inland 
  hide details  
Reply
post #23 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by videoman5 View Post

Explain open-source software then. Plus, a company ALWAYS needs get an edge over their competitor, regardless of whether their edge may dull more quickly.

The software itself is of no importance, only the outcomes of its use. My company develops software in-house and provides results and analysis of the results to clients rather than providing clients with the actual software. It saves them the effort of setting it up and maintaining the infrastructure to run it, and allows us to detect and fix bugs more quickly because we're hammering the software in-house and don't need to distribute updates.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shmerrick View Post

Then how is appearing in front of me.

Because pixels in your LCD panel are responding to electrical signals from your video card which is generating a visual representation of a specific sequence of magnetic grains covering regions of one or more HDD platters. Now if they took your magnetic grains, that would be theft.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 D0 MSI X58 Pro-E Gigabyte GTX 970 (GV-N970IX-4GD) 3x2GB G.Skill DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
840 Pro Caviar Black LG BD-ROM Windows 8.1 Pro x64 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Dell U2713HM Dell U2311H Turbo-Trak (Google it :D) Corsair HX-520 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM690 Mionix Avior 7000 Everglide Titan AKG K 242 HD 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 D0 MSI X58 Pro-E Gigabyte GTX 970 (GV-N970IX-4GD) 3x2GB G.Skill DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
840 Pro Caviar Black LG BD-ROM Windows 8.1 Pro x64 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Dell U2713HM Dell U2311H Turbo-Trak (Google it :D) Corsair HX-520 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM690 Mionix Avior 7000 Everglide Titan AKG K 242 HD 
  hide details  
Reply
post #24 of 52
Sharing is caring smile.gif
post #25 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by Larky_the_mauler View Post

Not sure if this a good thing or a bad thing...

Good thing tongue.gif It's actually been illegal to copy songs from your computer (even if you did pay for it) onto an iPod or some other MP3 player or phone or whatever, for a very long time.
post #26 of 52
A ha ha ha ha

rofl

I don't even know why I'm laughing at this matter
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Pentium E5400 G31TM-P31 (MS-7529) NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 Kingston (generic 6-6-6-18 @ 400mhz) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate 250GB (ST3250318AS) Liteon CD/DVD-RW x22 Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Ubuntu 10.10 x86 / Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Dual-... 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer X193HQ Genius KB 110 Corsair HX450 Something Generic 
MouseMouse Pad
Genius Netscroll 120 $4 Mousepad from CD-R King 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Pentium E5400 G31TM-P31 (MS-7529) NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 Kingston (generic 6-6-6-18 @ 400mhz) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate 250GB (ST3250318AS) Liteon CD/DVD-RW x22 Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Ubuntu 10.10 x86 / Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Dual-... 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer X193HQ Genius KB 110 Corsair HX450 Something Generic 
MouseMouse Pad
Genius Netscroll 120 $4 Mousepad from CD-R King 
  hide details  
Reply
post #27 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by PCCstudent View Post

Lets say your company hired another firm to come in and analyze the way a certain process was being completed.The company you hired found ways you could alter your process that made the process more efficient.Then lets say you left your company and hired on with a competitor that did the same process.You told you new company about the "better way" that the consulting firm had advised your old company to do the job. I ask, did you steal trade secrets? All you took were ideas, but ideas that your old company had to pay to develope.

I see the code the man took in the story linked as a way to do a job better,it had value,why should it not be protected.He certainly would not have taken it if it did not have value.Is the question "did what he take have value" not the question being asked?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shmerrick View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by videoman5 View Post

I've always said IP laws are great way to stagnate growth in a modern society. Given current technology, IP laws are growing to be less pragmatic. If your competitors can copy you, it forces you to be even more innovative, and quicker to update your product.

WHAT!? So if I just spent 2 years on some software, you're telling me that it's ok for someone to come along when I release it and say, oh. No, I actually made that. Current legal system reguarding code is retarded. They say you can't steal it because it's not physical. What? Then how is appearing in front of me. Better yet, this same logical argument can be made for written language. Oh well, you don't own the language, you just manipulated words to write that book. You don't actually own you're writting.

Source: comp sci major and prelaw (focus on corporate)

Of course the first thing any smart software/developer is going to do when they hire you is make you sign an NDA, anything you create while employed by them is owned by them. So it would be stealing if you ever worked on the project in the first place then took it elsewhere. Generally there is some sort of time limit also, non-compete clauses to stop someone from walking in and then walking out with trade secrets.
post #28 of 52
Good.. need to read the details in the morning.
IntelAsylum R2.1
(14 items)
 
M11xR2
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k ASRock Z77 Extreme6 MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4G 16GB Ripjaw X 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
R0: 2x1TB WD Se Samsung 840 EVO LG UH12LS28 BDD Windows 7 Ultimate x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell E2414H x2 M$ Sidewinder x4 Seasonic 600W CM HAF 932A 
MouseMouse Pad
Logitec M705 MouseMat 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
i7 GT335m 1gb 4gb ddr3 Sandisk 128GB SSD 
OS
Windows/Linux/Depends 
  hide details  
Reply
IntelAsylum R2.1
(14 items)
 
M11xR2
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k ASRock Z77 Extreme6 MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4G 16GB Ripjaw X 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
R0: 2x1TB WD Se Samsung 840 EVO LG UH12LS28 BDD Windows 7 Ultimate x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell E2414H x2 M$ Sidewinder x4 Seasonic 600W CM HAF 932A 
MouseMouse Pad
Logitec M705 MouseMat 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
i7 GT335m 1gb 4gb ddr3 Sandisk 128GB SSD 
OS
Windows/Linux/Depends 
  hide details  
Reply
post #29 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by videoman5 View Post

Explain open-source software then. Plus, a company ALWAYS needs get an edge over their competitor, regardless of whether their edge may dull more quickly.

Open source software can meet the profitability rule by someone providing (and charging for) support for the software.I write it and give it to you for free but then you pay me to teach you and your employees how to use it and fix it when things do not work quite right.
WC Rig
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-930@4.05GHz ASUS P6X58D-Preminum XFX GeForce 275 896mb 6GB Corsair TR3X6G1600C8D 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD 150gb Raptor LightScan Win 7 64-bit Acer 22" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
G15 Corsair HX620W Antec 1200 several various 
Mouse Pad
none 
  hide details  
Reply
WC Rig
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-930@4.05GHz ASUS P6X58D-Preminum XFX GeForce 275 896mb 6GB Corsair TR3X6G1600C8D 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD 150gb Raptor LightScan Win 7 64-bit Acer 22" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
G15 Corsair HX620W Antec 1200 several various 
Mouse Pad
none 
  hide details  
Reply
post #30 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by PCCstudent View Post

Open source software can meet the profitability rule by someone providing (and charging for) support for the software.I write it and give it to you for free but then you pay me to teach you and your employees how to use it and fix it when things do not work quite right.

It could also be the efforts of some industry players to undermine the position of a dominant market-share holder. For example, if Microsoft dominates the word processing and spreadsheet software markets, the smaller players in the industry might pool together their resources to develop one competing open source product. By giving away a free roughly-equivalent product, they hope to deny Microsoft of potential revenue. And although each participant in the open source project does incur some of the costs of development, these are small compared to the lost sales that a Microsoft faces. "The four of us will each pay $3 if it'll set you back $20." It's not designed to turn a profit; it's designed to mitigate a competitive disadvantage and level the playing field.
Gaming Rig
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 6850K ASUS X99-A II EVGA GTX 1080 SC ACX 3.0 G.Skill Ripjaws 4 DDR4-2666 32GB (4x8GB) 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 950 Pro M.2 SSD Samsung 840 Pro SATA SSD WD Black 4TB HDD ASUS CD/DVD-RW 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
Corsair H115 Windows 10 Home x64 LG 34UC97 Dell U2713HM 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Roccat Ryos MK FX Corsair AX1200i Corsair 780T Roccat Nyth 
Audio
Creative Sound Blaster ZxR 
  hide details  
Reply
Gaming Rig
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 6850K ASUS X99-A II EVGA GTX 1080 SC ACX 3.0 G.Skill Ripjaws 4 DDR4-2666 32GB (4x8GB) 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 950 Pro M.2 SSD Samsung 840 Pro SATA SSD WD Black 4TB HDD ASUS CD/DVD-RW 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
Corsair H115 Windows 10 Home x64 LG 34UC97 Dell U2713HM 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Roccat Ryos MK FX Corsair AX1200i Corsair 780T Roccat Nyth 
Audio
Creative Sound Blaster ZxR 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Software News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Software News › [GeekoSystem] Court Rules That Code Isn’t Physical And Cannot Be Stolen, Only Copied