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erm... guys c'mon! Mac is a good platform, just 'cause we're builders doesn't mean we gotta hate.. those people are inept yeah, but also innocent. I honestly find Mac's easy to use. I think, just an opinion, OS X is a very slick OS, ..but I ask you this..
Honestly, ..What would you rather do?
1. Put Windows or Ubuntu on a self built comp for a relative
OR
2. buy them a Mac and not have to troubleshoot over the phone?
point and click. simple. de-stressing.
bad points are : expensive and closed. but expensive is a big one.
if I had the ability I would put Ubuntu on 'Luna'* and not care, but my friend had lots of trouble with it, and you still need IT savvy for Linux frown.gif . Windows is a good OS and getting better but OSX provides a whole experience IMO, like going to a tailor to get a suit, might be a trendy suit, but a suit none the less.
peace
*can't just now as the Eth driver is faulty with the kernel.

im not saying its bad, i'm just throwing the facts out there. It's true, 600,000 got infected with malware (which, might i add, doesn't always ask you for any kind of password. Though this one probably did tongue.gif)

I'd also like to say that just because the did something stupid does not mean they are not worthy of a computer. You would have done the same exact thing at one point in time. You didn't come out of the womb a computer genius.
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erm i posted a reply.. must of disappeared.. OH! :O :/

anyways, I agree with what you said, good call and funny.

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Because taking the risk of "catching something" and not being annoyed (mind you I don't have much experience with anything other than Norton and McAfee on Mac) with the constant warning signs and auto-scans every time I want to do something is better than spending $50 for the annoyance to be "protected". The likely-hood of being attacked before you had updates definitions is also very high because they don't get updated instantly.

Ah, Norton. I understand your hesitation, then. This is precisely why I point to Sophos. It's free, and the only indication that it's running is the little black shield icon in the upper right. Unless it's found something. There is also ClamXav
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Also, the recent outbreak of MacProtector (also with other names but the same malware) actually required to install software which _made you put your password in_ and if you are that stupid to just install this random program that appeared on your computer because the download started as soon as the page/ad loaded and some browsers, including Safari had set to auto-open downloads by default, than AV software is not going to help you. Having AV software would not have stopped this method of attack.

Requiring or giving a piece of malware your password in order to install it doesn't prohibit your anti-virus from doing its job. We actually had a case of Mac Defender (same thing as Mac Protector, I believe), but Sophos identified and quarantined it. Problem solved. So, in my case, it both helped and stop this method of attack. Your experience, clearly, has been different, but that experience doesn't extend to all anti-virus/anti-malware and render AV on Macs moot.
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I've been using Apple OS's for years and not once, on a single one of my machines, nor on any family members Macs have ever been infected with anything. The majority of my customers also have never been infected with anything. The risk is very low and the benefits of not wasting money on software that gets in your way sounds like a risk I'd be willing to take.

There are free options, and options other than (and better than?) Norton and McAfee. I've mentioned two free options in this post, and one of them (Sophos) I know for certain has a very small, unobtrusive footprint.

I'd also like to point out that having AV on your Mac is also a preventative measure for PCs in your household. I've learned in a mixed environment that having anti-virus on the Macs goes a long way to preventing the spread of malware to the PCs. The OP, mind you, also has a PC. Macs, while unharmed by PC viruses and malware, can still transmit those to your PC counterparts.
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Also, if you are taking the ACMT to get a job working on Macs, do yourself a favor and never ever work for an Apple store because it's the worst job in the world and will make you hate your entire life. I worked there for one year as a specialist and two as a genius before quitting because it was so bad. I now work for a service provider and it's pretty decent.

Hah. smile.gif No thanks. I've been done with retail for a very long time, and have no intention of ever going back. No, the certs are for justifying a pay raise.

Anyway, I think between the two of us we've presented enough info here for the OP to make an informed decision.

Happy computing!
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To all, I ended up putting Sophos Free Edition on it to be safe and because that's the only AV I like compared to the other choices I had. I still have to get around to downloading a browser, I'll probably get Camino when I get a chance.
 
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ATTN: All Macs NEED antivirus software!


Love,

Your friendly neighborhood Anti Virus providers.......
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And this is why you need antivirus on a mac: http://www.overclock.net/t/1248075/usat-study-one-in-five-macs-carry-malware/0_30

Look, I'm not saying Mac's are impervious or any nonsense like that, but, are we really supposed to take the word of people who will profit greatly by the so called "need" for antivirus on Mac's?

It's like trusting local crime statistics to people who sell home security systems. It's like trusting used car salesmen, it's like actually BELIEVING a politician...... etc.
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Look, I'm not saying Mac's are impervious or any nonsense like that, but, are we really supposed to take the word of people who will profit greatly by the so called "need" for antivirus on Mac's?
It's like trusting local crime statistics to people who sell home security systems. It's like trusting used car salesmen, it's like actually BELIEVING a politician...... etc.

And not using antivirus (which is free btw) is like not wearing a seatbelt... you'd be an idiot not to.
 
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And not using antivirus (which is free btw) is like not wearing a seatbelt... you'd be an idiot not to.

Even though I don't like being called an idiot, by your logic you should run av software on any network aware device because it COULD be compromised.

If that is indeed your opinion, what do you use on your cell phone os?
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Even though I don't like being called an idiot, by your logic you should run av software on any network aware device because it COULD be compromised.
If that is indeed your opinion, what do you use on your cell phone os?

Theres a few different AV programs for android thumb.gif

These include McAfee and AVG as well as about 10 others
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