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I been thinking about it and reading up alot. some have said it having the same problem the P4/itanium had, that the pipelines are too big.
now naturally our first though it to overclock to make up for it. the other is improve the tasking of the cores since the scheduler seems to be a advanced for current OS.

I been wondering If maybe the high clocking is to blame. Granted i dont have the setup for overclocking or underclocking and my 890GX has trouble even if i ramp the fsb down (just wasnt made for the cpu)

Could it be that even though this cpu is faster than heck, that its actually has to slow down or wait to complete an instruction or even stack instructions. Would the key to optimisation be in lowering the clock, I wish i could test this but maybe someone with more knowlege and a better rig could test it out.
Edited by erosmagnum - 4/15/12 at 2:06pm
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Actually the Bulldozer CPU is not lackluster at all. It's a completely new architecture that is in it's infancy. While AMD had hoped for better out-of-the-box performance and higher frequencies, production issues at GloFo made this impossible along with some internal designs that have yet to be optimized. Pipeline length can influence CPU performance but it is only one of many design issues that influences the CPU's performance.

As far as how the BD performs - it depends on the application and software. If you use an O/S and software that can take advanntage of the multi-cores then the BD works pretty well. If you use software that is not optimized to use multi-core CPUs well then BD's performance can be slightly less than highend Phenom II or an Intel 2500 type CPU. It really depends on what you use your PC for what works the best for you.

For those who do like OC'ing the FX chips do OC very well and scale accordingly so they are fun.

Be advised that these types of threads typically turn into a Pissfest by Intel fanbois and then they get locked. redface.gif
Edited by AMD4ME - 4/13/12 at 12:35pm
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They are also cheap compared to the intels. Cheap is fun too.
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They are also cheap compared to the intels. Cheap is fun too.

Cheap, but bulldozer is VERY fun to overclock. wink.gif

Personally, I've always AMD much easier to overclock, but then again, I only overclocked a i7 920, and that thing HATED being overclocked (at least my friends did).
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Well i for one Do love my 6100, i couldnt afford the 8150 at the time, but i just looked at newegg and some of the newer ones to come out are in fact clocked lower. be it for whatever reason.
What my thought was, could the high clock be the source of the BDs, lackluster performance. i use the word lackluster because its not a mindblowing improvement over the thuban. though it is one hell of a step in bring super workload workstations to the mid range consumer(like those on a fixed income)
I could toss on my Task manager and when i have a heavy workload, i can have as many as 120 processes. (example, steam, TS, EVE SKYPE YIM, MSN, 7 tabs on firefox [ one streaming anime, one with a radio, one on OC.net, another on OCremix. youtube, my mail, facebook]) you get the idea.
I used to have to use multiple computers for the amount of stuff i like to do, and now i can do it all, and i have yet to actually see this thing hiccup. (though Flash might crash, but thats adobes fault or adblock told the wrong thing to FO)
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Same here.. my 8120 its bone stock, no a single problem/slow down with ANYTHING and felt like a big upgrade (coming from a q8300 3ghz)

1.- BD arch its very new.. windows still doesnt know how to treat it

2.- BD its a high clock design.. and everyone knows the problems with GloFo rolleyes.gif

3.- software NEEDS/MUST be optimized for it.. anyone remember the beggining fo INTELs HyperThreading?!?! rolleyes.gif


other than that.. BD ots a fine CPU, just needs some polishing thats all thumb.gif
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Playing games? Go Intel.

Playing benchmarks? Go..

Wait. Who plays benchmarks all day?
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Playing games? Go Intel.

Playing benchmarks? Go..

Wait. Who plays benchmarks all day?

75% of the members on OCN..? rolleyes.gif
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Same reason the PS3 is sooo... Meh with the Cell.

Current coding is not up to par with the new technology...or something like that
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Simple three reasons,

* BD is mostly a sidegrade (and in some instance a downgrade) to Phenom II.
* BD is not as fast as its current competitor, Intel SB, when compared clock to clock.
* BD consumes more power than its competitor, Intel SB, when compared clock to clock. When OC'ed past 4.5 GHz, BD's power consumption goes up exponentially.

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Playing games? Go Intel.
Playing benchmarks? Go..
Wait. Who plays benchmarks all day?

What are you talking about? This is OCN. Benchmark all the way!! bike.gif
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