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Yes, I like the concept. I have to work on packaging.

 

BOOM! SOLD! (if a little less cheaper than the TFC blister packs XD ) Any ETA for NCIX?

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I know, it is irritating isn't it? Not about what they say about our fittings, but more importantly the casual approach they take. "Hey it's so low pressure, you could just put some teflon tape.." Not even mentionning that teflon tape is never used on straight threads, right? Honestly, I am at a loss for words here. Sorry I'm having a real hard time keeping my cool. doh.gif

I know, the ignorance is staggering. But whatever, you can find that on pretty much any forum.

Me personally, I choose to NOT play roulette with my thousands of dollars worth of new parts. Especially when I'm a complete novice when it comes to watercooling and am far more likely to mess something up as I'm installing the radiator, reservoir, blocks, tubing, etc. This is why I'm SO GLAD I stumbled across your post announcing these new fittings. I hate to admit it, but I was actually considering those new Monsoon fittings. doh.gif
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Yes, I like the concept. I have to work on packaging.

Well like CramComplex above me said, SOLD! I don't want to bother with getting from a reseller, so any ETA for them to be available on the site?
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I know, the ignorance is staggering. But whatever, you can find that on pretty much any forum.
Me personally, I choose to NOT play roulette with my thousands of dollars worth of new parts. Especially when I'm a complete novice when it comes to watercooling and am far more likely to mess something up as I'm installing the radiator, reservoir, blocks, tubing, etc. This is why I'm SO GLAD I stumbled across your post announcing these new fittings. I hate to admit it, but I was actually considering those new Monsoon fittings. doh.gif
Well like CramComplex above me said, SOLD! I don't want to bother with getting from a reseller, so any ETA for them to be available on the site?

Why does being a novice have to do with anything my first build was a custom loop with barbs no leaks.
There are guides on here I made as well as others to show you how to build your loop from the ground up.
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Any chance these will be sold in blister packs (sets of X)?

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Yes, I like the concept. I have to work on packaging.

thumb.gif

I like this too, a lot of times, I find myself scratching my head on exactly how many fittings I need.. Yes I can count and estimate, but I always end up switching around colors or just to add/change a little something new to my case when I do a drain / maintenance routine.

I suggest 6x in a pack, that seems to be a good number.
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Why does being a novice have to do with anything my first build was a custom loop with barbs no leaks.
There are guides on here I made as well as others to show you how to build your loop from the ground up.

 

Same here, all I had was a bunch of barbs and zip-ties as clamps...worked fine for me too despite being a novice as well.

 

For me compression fittings are an investment as well as ease of use, compression also have a failure rate as well and we can chalk it all up to the manufacturer if there are any defects on the fittings, but with barbs...it's you who is responsible for tightening the tubes on to the barbs. Well just my 2 cents.

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Same here, all I had was a bunch of barbs and zip-ties as clamps...worked fine for me too despite being a novice as well.

For me compression fittings are an investment as well as ease of use, compression also have a failure rate as well and we can chalk it all up to the manufacturer if there are any defects on the fittings, but with barbs...it's you who is responsible for tightening the tubes on to the barbs. Well just my 2 cents.

Several years ago, I used to say that zip ties were OK... that is until a system I assembled with zip ties developped leaks. When you fasten a zip-tie there is an area underneath the lock block that isn't mating with the tube.. It may allow leaks to form overtime. Since then, I no longer use zip ties.

Live and learn.

Just my 2 cents wink.gif
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Am I actually reading this right now? wth.gif
You people are crapping on these fittings because they are TOO SAFE for watercooling? Unbelievable. How can you even call them over-kill when they cost exactly the same as other compression fittings?kookoo.gif
I'm new to the world of watercooling and will be doing it for the first time ever in the next week or 2 with my new 3930k build, and will be using these fittings exclusively (other than some quick disconnects). Why the HELL would I not go with these fittings to make my build safer and less likely to leak, especially given it won't cost me anything to do so?

I have no issue with secure fittings that hold a tube that practically requires a knife to get off again, i.e. XSPC compression fittings, but these new Swiftech compression fittings just look like a retake of Koolance compression fittings. That is not necessarily a bad thing. However, when the retail price of these fittings come into play, they become less appealing. I can get 1/2" x 3/4" compression fitting from XSPC for $4, Koolance for $6.50-$7, Monsoon for $7.50 ($6.50/ea in a six-pack), and Swiftech for $8. The only fittings that these are competitively priced against are those from Bitspower, which cost $8.50-$10. I can actually individually buy XSPC fittings into a pair for the retail price Swiftech is asking for here. In addition, the XSPC fittings can be tightened by a coin and by hand just like the Monsoon fittings so no other tools are required that could damage them..

My other issue, the actual barb on the compression fitting doesn't look as secure compared to Koolance, XSPC, and even Monsoon fittings, which can hold the tubing well-enough on their own. Those three are essentially a good/excellent barb fitting made to work as a compression fitting. The Swiftech on the other hand has a weak/shallow/non-aggressive looking barb that tubing probably would pull straight off of without any effort. Keep in mind, I am basing this observation/opinion on their provided schematics, pictures (that don't really show the quality of the barb portion), and their other graphics.

So I am left curious, as to whether this is actually one of the most expensive and less-secure compression fittings on market. Because, it looks that way. You can provide me with pictures, evidence, and samples for testing if you wish. I am buying up a list of new parts next week and will be conducting rough comparative testing for a new build at the end of the month.
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Any chance these will be sold in blister packs (sets of X)?
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I like this too, a lot of times, I find myself scratching my head on exactly how many fittings I need.. Yes I can count and estimate, but I always end up switching around colors or just to add/change a little something new to my case when I do a drain / maintenance routine.
I suggest 6x in a pack, that seems to be a good number.

This! Buying every compression fitting separately is exceeding expensive especially since almost no one buys only one fitting.
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those are really nice.. been planning a new loop, but of course cant get these in Australia yet.. sigh..
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The concept is interesting...not sure if I should just use barbs or use these for a first WC setup.
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Crucial M4 64GB Western Digital WD Blue 500GB Lite-On iHAS124 CD/DVD Burner Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO (Pull Configuration) 
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Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit NEC MultiSync LCD1970VX NEC MultiSync LCD1970VX Filco Majestouch Black w/ Cherry MX Blue (JIS l... 
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Corsair CX430 NZXT Source 220 Logitech Click! Mouse SteelSeries QcK Mini Diablo III Edition 
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