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Does onboard audio make FLAC sound the same as MP3 128kbps?

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Or am I just deaf?

My onboard audio is Realtek ALC892. I've tried A-Bing several sources of 128kbps vs FLAC and I pretty much can't tell the difference between the way they sound. Is this because of the limitations of the onboard chip? I got my sister to take a listen too and she couldn't tell the difference either (she has fine ears). I was listening to them through Bose On Ear headphones.
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Right after posting this I found an example where there was a clear difference. I think the MP3 encoding for that song may have been just bad.

But out of the other 10 or so songs that I tried I couldn't tell the difference.
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I see you've already answered your question but I'll give you some of my observations...

 

For FLACs vs MP3s(320kbps CBR I ripped from the FLAC) I couldn't tell any difference with onboard audio except on high volumes. And after configuring the settings very generally in Foobar for them both the FLAC only seems to have slightly more depth on very particular songs. Especially based on the song's well.... particular sound.

 

With FLAC resampling, noise sharpening, and a few others things I can't recall off the top of my head there is a clear difference at just about any volume.

 

If I were you i'd do your best to get FLACs now because when the time comes when you can truly notice the difference you're going to wish your entire library were in it and it can take a while to build a nice collection and even more tricky sometimes to tag it correctly.

 

Fortunately for me I have a good bit of friends in different bands and they've all separately came to the conclusion of buying random music every two weeks and I have a great library system locally so I probably half my library is in the highest available quality.


Edited by Ryleh - 4/14/12 at 12:42pm
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That must be some pretty bad onboard sound. I can't stand onboard sound as a rule, but even on it, I can usually tell the difference between FLAC and mediocre MP3 encoding with no problems. FLAC vs. MP3 at 320 might be a different story, but MP3 at 128? Huge difference.
     
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Originally Posted by Ryleh View Post

I see you've already answered your question but I'll give you some of my observations...

For FLACs vs MP3s(320kbps CBR I ripped from the FLAC) I couldn't tell any difference with onboard audio except on high volumes. And after configuring the settings very generally in Foobar for them both the FLAC only seems to have slightly more depth on very particular songs. Especially based on the song's well.... particular sound.

With FLAC resampling, noise sharpening, and a few others things I can't recall off the top of my head there is a clear difference at just about any volume.

If I were you i'd do your best to get FLACs now because when the time comes when you can truly notice the difference you're going to wish your entire library were in it and it can take a while to build a nice collection and even more tricky sometimes to tag it correctly.

Fortunately for me I have a good bit of friends in different bands and they've all separately came to the conclusion of buying random music every two weeks and I have a great library system locally so I probably half my library is in the highest available quality.

What settings did you configure in Foobar? I just recently started using it and find it pretty confusing to use.
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That must be some pretty bad onboard sound. I can't stand onboard sound as a rule, but even on it, I can usually tell the difference between FLAC and mediocre MP3 encoding with no problems. FLAC vs. MP3 at 320 might be a different story, but MP3 at 128? Huge difference.

What sound card do you use?
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BOSE aren't that 'great' to begin with. I have troubles noticing big differences between the two, but there is some noticable details lost (my brother has the BOSE headphones too). If the FLAC conversion was from a MP3 or was just done 'bad' then you won't notice the difference anyways. Can't make a bad source into a good one just by switching to FLAC.
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Rip the CDs using flac, don't upconvert the songs from mp3.
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BOSE aren't that 'great' to begin with. I have troubles noticing big differences between the two, but there is some noticable details lost (my brother has the BOSE headphones too). If the FLAC conversion was from a MP3 or was just done 'bad' then you won't notice the difference anyways. Can't make a bad source into a good one just by switching to FLAC.

I do have a pair of ATH-M50s on the way and will see if there's a difference with those.
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Rip the CDs using flac, don't upconvert the songs from mp3.

I didn't convert my MP3s to FLAC, they're from different sources.
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I have onboard sound, And I can tell the difference between my 40mb WAV files (converted from FLAC) and my 3mb mp3 files.. Both on my 5.1 HomeEntertainment Speaker System and my Headphones..
   
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Ok well I'll post back when I get my M50s in a couple of days, it might be because of the headphones I'm using.
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