Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Monitors and Displays › 27" 1080p for eyefinity?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

27" 1080p for eyefinity? - Page 2

post #11 of 20
I have the Asus vg278h model panels. For sub-$400 panels in this size I would try the Asus ve278q. The ve278q seems to have good reviews. I nearly went with the the ve278q due to the price being half of the vg278h, but I really wanted 120hz panels for sim racing. If I just played RPG and RTS games I would probably not have gone for the 120Hz model.

ve278q runs 309.99 on amazon
vg278h runs 638.00 on amazon

Steve
post #12 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve_Lab View Post

I have the Asus vg278h model panels. For sub-$400 panels in this size I would try the Asus ve278q. The ve278q seems to have good reviews. I nearly went with the the ve278q due to the price being half of the vg278h, but I really wanted 120hz panels for sim racing. If I just played RPG and RTS games I would probably not have gone for the 120Hz model.
ve278q runs 309.99 on amazon
vg278h runs 638.00 on amazon
Steve

Wow... 120hz eyefinity must be insane. Wish that was in my price range. That Asus does look nice though. Thanks dude thumb.gif
post #13 of 20
A 1080p image showing on a 27" monitor would show slight blurring (obviously, because it gets STRETCHED), try this, take a 720p image and stretch it to 1080p (as some would do with their wallpapers) then tell me the picture quality is only "slightly" worse, it would pixelate. And the thing about moving back "just a little" from your monitor is an understatement IMHO, most probably you will be sitting 2-3 feet away from your computer which WILL make you notice the PQ difference, try using a 27" (2560x1440) monitor and sit it right next to a 27" (1920x1080) monitor and see if you ever touch that 27" 1080p again. moving back just a little to eliminate the pixelation would require you to sit 4-7 feet away from your computer, who would want to do that? might as well just buy 23-inchers, or even a 24" for 1920x1200, 25" is an odd size which I have not yet experienced. Also, take note that running games on 2560x1440 will tax your GPU, by how much I don't know, but enough for you to see slow-downs on graphically intense portions of games.

I have owned the samsung s27a950d and the dell u2711, both are great monitors by the way, and, to be honest, you can't compare these monitors, aside from the screen size, nothing else is the same about them, one is TN the other is IPS (blah blah blah, yada yada, there are a lot of 120hz vs IPS threads out there), one is geared more for gaming (samsung) because of the response times which makes games run with fluidity, one is for photo editors who want color accuracy (dell) and have sharp and crisp images . At the end of the day, it's all down to preferrence. Mine happens to be getting a big enough monitor which supports the highest resolution possible (i can't stomach paying $600 only to get 1080p when I can pay less than 1/3 to get the same resolution). Skyrim looks awesome by the way, super picturesque (especially if you have them texture packs from skyrim nexus).

The only reason i'm getting one of the korean monitors is because: 1) The Dell is a power-hungry monster, sucking close to 170w of power off the wall; 2) I hate the Aggressive Anti-Glare Coating; 3) the Korean monitor has a response time of 6ms; 4) During long periods of use I feel as if my face is sitting a foot away from a toaster (in short, the dell produces tons of heat); and BEST OF ALL 5) The Shimian would only damage me $300.

So, what you have to ask yourself is: "What do I want?"
1) If you want games to run fluid then go for 120hz.
2) If you want eye-candy, sharp, crispy, "halleluya" images then go for 2560x1440.

Ask people who have owned or at least used both, not only those who have used either (which makes their opinions biased), and you will soon find out that the opinion is still split, again, because of preference, I must admit the fluidity of 120hz monitors is awesome, no screen tearing - AT ALL, however, I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit of screen tearing (which does not bother me as much as others here) for great images and the option of just staring at an awesome photograph I just took of a heavenly landscape.

as far as color reproduction is concerned, my samsung's was around 80% (conservative estimate) as accurate as my dell (now owned by my friend, you have served me well partner!).

CAVEAT:
If you're willing to wait, 120hz IPS Monitors will be coming out, you get the best of both worlds, ALTHOUGH, I don't know how much they'll cost, nor do I have a decent estimate.
Edited by gsv883 - 4/17/12 at 4:00am
post #14 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gsv883 View Post

A 1080p image showing on a 27" monitor would show slight blurring (obviously, because it gets STRETCHED), try this, take a 720p image and stretch it to 1080p (as some would do with their wallpapers) then tell me the picture quality is only "slightly" worse, it would pixelate. And the thing about moving back "just a little" from your monitor is an understatement IMHO, most probably you will be sitting 2-3 feet away from your computer which WILL make you notice the PQ difference, try using a 27" (2560x1440) monitor and sit it right next to a 27" (1920x1080) monitor and see if you ever touch that 27" 1080p again. moving back just a little to eliminate the pixelation would require you to sit 4-7 feet away from your computer, who would want to do that? might as well just buy 23-inchers, or even a 24" for 1920x1200, 25" is an odd size which I have not yet experienced. Also, take note that running games on 2560x1440 will tax your GPU, by how much I don't know, but enough for you to see slow-downs on graphically intense portions of games.
I have owned the samsung s27a950d and the dell u2711, both are great monitors by the way, and, to be honest, you can't compare these monitors, aside from the screen size, nothing else is the same about them, one is TN the other is IPS (blah blah blah, yada yada, there are a lot of 120hz vs IPS threads out there), one is geared more for gaming (samsung) because of the response times which makes games run with fluidity, one is for photo editors who want color accuracy (dell) and have sharp and crisp images . At the end of the day, it's all down to preferrence. Mine happens to be getting a big enough monitor which supports the highest resolution possible (i can't stomach paying $600 only to get 1080p when I can pay less than 1/3 to get the same resolution). Skyrim looks awesome by the way, super picturesque (especially if you have them texture packs from skyrim nexus).
The only reason i'm getting one of the korean monitors is because: 1) The Dell is a power-hungry monster, sucking close to 170w of power off the wall; 2) I hate the Aggressive Anti-Glare Coating; 3) the Korean monitor has a response time of 6ms; 4) During long periods of use I feel as if my face is sitting a foot away from a toaster (in short, the dell produces tons of heat); and BEST OF ALL 5) The Shimian would only damage me $300.
So, what you have to ask yourself is: "What do I want?"
1) If you want games to run fluid then go for 120hz.
2) If you want eye-candy, sharp, crispy, "halleluya" images then go for 2560x1440.
Ask people who have owned or at least used both, not only those who have used either (which makes their opinions biased), and you will soon find out that the opinion is still split, again, because of preference, I must admit the fluidity of 120hz monitors is awesome, no screen tearing - AT ALL, however, I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit of screen tearing (which does not bother me as much as others here) for great images and the option of just staring at an awesome photograph I just took of a heavenly landscape.
as far as color reproduction is concerned, my samsung's was around 80% (conservative estimate) as accurate as my dell (now owned by my friend, you have served me well partner!).
CAVEAT:
If you're willing to wait, 120hz IPS Monitors will be coming out, you get the best of both worlds, ALTHOUGH, I don't know how much they'll cost, nor do I have a decent estimate.

Great post, thanks for the info. I should note a couple things, though.

- I'm mostly a gamer - very little graphically intensive computing other than gaming, though I want eyefinity also for productivity purposes (I do a lot of text editing/document work).

- I'm set on eyefinity, so 1080p is the resolution for me. Anything more would destroy my GPUs (I'm planning on tri-firing 7970s, but afaik even a setup like that will stumble with those uber-resolutions in eyefinity when games are maxed).

- 120hz would also probably be a waste for me because, again, I don't think I'll have the GPU power to hit 120 fps in eyefinity on top-tier, maxed out games.

- I can't afford 800 dollar monitors. 300-350 is my top price range.

- I game on a 25" 1080p monitor right now (it's actually a Samsung w/ an HDTV tuner built in). Spec-wise it's not the best for gaming - 4ms response, 50,000:1 contrast ratio - but honestly I'm totally happy with the image it produces. Then again, I don't have much to compare it to.

The more opinions, the better for me. Thanks guys.
post #15 of 20
I agree with most of what gsv883 has added. I actually own a Dell u3011 as well as the vg278h panels. Your specfic usage requirements should dictate which is best for you.

The u3011 is hands down best for photography and general desktop usage. The size, pixel density and real state is awsome, but it has some issues when it comes to gaming. While I appreciate the resolution on the u3011 in desktop usage, I don't feel there is as much a difference when gaming compared to a 1080p monitor.

The vg278h wins by a landslide for gaming, especially where there is lots of movement. In racing games the 120Hz panel is far superior because of the fluidity of 120fps and the significantly reduced motion blur of moving objects. I see it this this way, u3011 will show blurry textures while moving at 1600p while the 120Hz monitor will show crisp textures at 1080p. Trust me when I say that the 120Hz monitor looks way better in fast moving games.

The u2711 and u3011 do use a bit of power as gsv883 indicated. My three vg278h panels together use less power than just one u3011 bigeyedsmiley.png
post #16 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by flyingsaucers View Post

- I'm set on eyefinity, so 1080p is the resolution for me. Anything more would destroy my GPUs (I'm planning on tri-firing 7970s, but afaik even a setup like that will stumble with those uber-resolutions in eyefinity when games are maxed).
- 120hz would also probably be a waste for me because, again, I don't think I'll have the GPU power to hit 120 fps in eyefinity on top-tier, maxed out games.


I decided on 1080p for the same reasons, plus I wanted to use the displays for playing GT5 on the PS3 and scalling 1080p sources on higher res monitors never looks as good as the native resolution.

Achieving 120fps on three screens is very possible on some games like iRacing or Skyrim, but not on many others like BF3 unless some settings are turned down. In my experience turning down some settings to get 80-100fps is worth it.
post #17 of 20
For gaming, a 120hz monitor is highly recommended - ESPECIALLY for fast-paced games. IPS panels and obsession with pixel density and resolution are for us up-tights who want picture perfect screenshots.

Hey steve, how would you compare the s27a950d or 750d to that Asus?
post #18 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve_Lab View Post

I decided on 1080p for the same reasons, plus I wanted to use the displays for playing GT5 on the PS3 and scalling 1080p sources on higher res monitors never looks as good as the native resolution.
Achieving 120fps on three screens is very possible on some games like iRacing or Skyrim, but not on many others like BF3 unless some settings are turned down. In my experience turning down some settings to get 80-100fps is worth it.

I'm kind of a graphics whore when it comes to gaming. I play lots of graphically intense games: Skyrim with about 20 different graphics mods, BF3, TW2, Crysis/Warhead/Crysis 2, Metro 2033, and the list goes on. I also like at least 2x AA. Bear in mind that I have no real experience with eyefinity to speak of, other than what research I've done, but it's my understanding that using any amount of AA in eyefinity results in a significant fps hit. Granted, I will soon have three 7970s and most benchmarks in general are from the last gen. of graphics cards, so maybe this gen. will be different, but even if it is there is still the price issue. I'm pretty sure I can't get a 120hz monitor in $300 price range, correct?
post #19 of 20
You can, but it won't be 27"
post #20 of 20
A single 7970 would e quite capable of running 5x1 portrait 1080p eyefinity. I have 6770 with 5x1 portrait and I manage (although obviously its blatantly underpowered for the task). It was short of oskish for up to 3 screen eyefinity with 1080p screens.

Just turn down the AA. The screen array is so big that you will not be sitting at a distance where AA makes sense. At 75 cm a human with 20/20 vision cant make out the individual pixels at 23'' screen so he can not see the difference between a no AA, 2x AA and 16x AA at that distance on such display.

However, I would suggest going for the eBay catleaps instead. For approx 270 euros you get the same screens that are in DELL 27'' ultrasharps at 2560x1440.

As far as the displays go, if they must be 1080p then go for U2312HM instead or equivalent. If you go for 3 screens then any screen will do, if you go for 5 then make sure they are IPS (meaning they will not be 120 Hz) as otherwise the viewing angles suck for that large screen array and they will be unusable in portrait if not IPS.
Kohver v.4
(25 items)
 
Kohver v.3
(21 items)
 
Soliton
(23 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3820 X79-UP4 Gigabyte 390X G1 Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
64 GB Barracuda 3 TB WD Green 3 TB Crucial M4 256 GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial M4 64 GB Barracuda 4 TB Corsair LE 480HB Sythe big shuriken rev B 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Nexxos 280mm radiator DC-LT Alphacool GPX 390M04 Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
DELL U2311H (x3) DELL U2312HM (x2) 9.7'' 2048x1536 (x3) IPAD3 retina Asus PB287Q 4K 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Quickfire TK (red) Corsair AX-1200i Significantly modded Jupiter .. something alumi... Logitech G700s 
Mouse Pad
3M Ergonomic 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3820 X79-UP4 Gigabyte 390X G1 Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
64 GB Barracuda 3 TB WD Green 3 TB Crucial M4 256 GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M4 64 GB Barracuda 4 TB Sythe big shuriken rev B Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
DELL U2311H (x3) DELL U2312HM (x2) 9.7'' 2048x1536 (x3) IPAD3 retina Asus PB287Q 4K 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Quickfire TK (red) Corsair AX-1200i Modded Sharkoon VS-3 Logitech G700s 
Mouse Pad
3M Ergonomic 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3820 X79-UP4 Sapphire 7950 FleX OC XFX 6770 Eyefinity 5 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6 64 GB Samsung 750 GB F3 Barracuda 3 TB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD Green 3 TB Crucial M4 256 GB Crucial M4 64 GB Barracuda 4 TB 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
Custom loop Windows 7 Pro 64 bit DELL U2311H (x3) DELL U2312HM (x2) 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
9.7'' 2048x1536 (x3) IPAD3 retina Asus PB287Q 4K CM Quickfire TK (red) Corsair AX-1200i 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Modded Chieftec Smart WH-02B-B-OB Logitech G700s 3M Ergonomic 
  hide details  
Reply
Kohver v.4
(25 items)
 
Kohver v.3
(21 items)
 
Soliton
(23 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3820 X79-UP4 Gigabyte 390X G1 Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
64 GB Barracuda 3 TB WD Green 3 TB Crucial M4 256 GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial M4 64 GB Barracuda 4 TB Corsair LE 480HB Sythe big shuriken rev B 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Nexxos 280mm radiator DC-LT Alphacool GPX 390M04 Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
DELL U2311H (x3) DELL U2312HM (x2) 9.7'' 2048x1536 (x3) IPAD3 retina Asus PB287Q 4K 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Quickfire TK (red) Corsair AX-1200i Significantly modded Jupiter .. something alumi... Logitech G700s 
Mouse Pad
3M Ergonomic 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3820 X79-UP4 Gigabyte 390X G1 Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
64 GB Barracuda 3 TB WD Green 3 TB Crucial M4 256 GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M4 64 GB Barracuda 4 TB Sythe big shuriken rev B Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
DELL U2311H (x3) DELL U2312HM (x2) 9.7'' 2048x1536 (x3) IPAD3 retina Asus PB287Q 4K 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Quickfire TK (red) Corsair AX-1200i Modded Sharkoon VS-3 Logitech G700s 
Mouse Pad
3M Ergonomic 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3820 X79-UP4 Sapphire 7950 FleX OC XFX 6770 Eyefinity 5 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6 64 GB Samsung 750 GB F3 Barracuda 3 TB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD Green 3 TB Crucial M4 256 GB Crucial M4 64 GB Barracuda 4 TB 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
Custom loop Windows 7 Pro 64 bit DELL U2311H (x3) DELL U2312HM (x2) 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
9.7'' 2048x1536 (x3) IPAD3 retina Asus PB287Q 4K CM Quickfire TK (red) Corsair AX-1200i 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Modded Chieftec Smart WH-02B-B-OB Logitech G700s 3M Ergonomic 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Monitors and Displays
Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Monitors and Displays › 27" 1080p for eyefinity?