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AMD will survive. APU and GPU are making a lot of money for AMD. AMD just need to do better on high performance market, FX CPU and Opteron.
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post #32 of 118
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Originally Posted by Darkpriest667 View Post


they will survive.. I never said they won't ... What I said is in OUR market they're never going to thrive again unless some major screw ups are made by Intel. They're now 2 full generations ahead.


BTW FX-6100 I lied.. its 130 bucks... WOW

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103962

naww You didn't lie. http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/FD6100WMGUSBX smile.gif
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post #33 of 118
We need amd just as much as we need intel. Can you imagine prices without competition?
I hope they both are around for a very long time.
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post #34 of 118
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I'm disappointed that we're still seeing articles and thoughts like these.

There's no doubt that AMD is going to survive because in everything that's actually important to the market, their products have been succeeding heaps.  So far, the APUs and GPUs have been excellent and a massive success and Trinity APU is going to bring AMD forward even further.  Bulldozer failed?  Fine.  An AMD product failed to attract what is 5% of the entire computer market and its release did not even have any effect on AMD's stock market rating - now, suddenly, we are going to worry if "AMD is going to survive"!?


Bollocks.

It's Bollocks that people claim that Bulldozer's launch had no effect on AMD stock.

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post #35 of 118
The ONLY people that bought bulldozer are the people that already had am3+ boards or the ones on a budget low grade build buying the 4 and 6 core fx's.
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I wonder how AMD would be different if Ruiz actually let Jen-Hsun Huang become CEO of AMD-Nvidia. Ruiz had single-handedly set back AMD many, many years.
post #37 of 118
I hope AMD holds in the competition,for the benefit of us, the consumers.
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post #38 of 118
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Yeah after bulldozer and seeing intel just keep pulling farther and farther ahead I had to finally make the switch.. They're getting farther behind in the enthusiast and performance markets.
This is pretty much where I am at but those of us that care about enthusiast level or peformance level hardware (CPU side obviously GPU a little different) shouldn't hold our breaths
I dont think AMD is a failure. I think they are a failure in the CPU enthusiast and performance market
Low end sales? Mobile sales? Sure they're gonna remain in an OK position. However, in the market that this website is interested in I fail to see how they will regain so much lost ground in any reasonable amount of time. Either Intel is going to have to stay in development stasis for 3 to 5 years or AMD is going to have to have a miracle breakthrough to get back to competing. As it is they arent even price competitive at this point with i3-2100 and i5-2500 plus the new Ivy series smoking anything AMD has at the same price points. Why do you think im on a 2600k and not an 8150? I had an AM3+ board since september with an 1100T in it waiting for the BD release. For a 300 dollar CPU its not competitive enough. It does good in tasks that dont transfer over to real world usage but in most (if not all) real world applications it got smoked by something that was the same price point as it.
Lets just look at the FX-6100... Newegg is selling them for 150 bucks last time I looked... I sold my USED 1100T for 170 not even a month ago. We can hope piledriver improves significantly but even if it does by the time PD comes out we'll have steppings of Ivy bridge that may have fixed its heating issue. (heat aside it draws less power and performs better than SB which performs better than FX)
I like AMD I want them to do well competition is good for everyone. But it doesnt look like, at least in the enthusiast and performance markets, that AMD has a chance in hell of recovering.

In the article, they talk about bringing high PCIe onto the chip. This is one of the reasons Intel does better in graphical performance.
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Seeing how even Trinity is gonna be faster than Zambezi, then Steamroller might just be a BEAST!
 
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Seeing how even Trinity is gonna be faster than Zambezi, then Steamroller might just be a BEAST!

If Piledriver cores weren't faster than Bulldozer cores, AMD would be in serious trouble.
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