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A couple of weeks before it's release, I'm starting to have doubts about how Ivy will perform.. I'm not a fan if iGPU either, so the 3930k it's starting to look like a better option..

Do I need a C2 3930k to make PCIe 3.0 work with a Rampage IV..?
Is X79 here to stay, as in Ivy-e compatible, or will Intel release another chipset just like with lga1155..?

I would like to get the Rampage, but I'm planning on keeping it for a long time and would want to get it if I knew another chipset was around the corner for lga2011..

And if anything of this doesn't make sense I apologize, I haven't been with Intel since the P3 era [build a 2500k rig for a friend, but that was it]..


EDIT: BTW, I'm planning on running a 3x 27" nvidia 3D surround setup with a GTX680 tripleSLI, that's why I need the extra power..
Edited by kpriess - 4/14/12 at 12:12pm
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no a C1 would work, and with the way it is looking a 3930k will have almost as fast of clockablility as the IVY CPU's

A RIVE would suit all your needs for 3-4 Years or something like that
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3930K CPUs of any stepping will work with PCI-E 3.0 if I'm not mistaken. The big advantage of the C2 and C3 stepping is VT-d support which is useful for hardware virtualization. Also, I'm pretty sure all the Sandy Bridge-E CPUs being produced at this point are C3 steppings. Regarding the longevity of X79, X79 should be compatible with Ivy Bridge-E so that's not a problem.

Source: http://www.techpowerup.com/155307/Ivy-Bridge-E-in-Q4-2012-Compatible-with-LGA2011-and-X79.html
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3930K CPUs of any stepping will work with PCI-E 3.0 if I'm not mistaken. The big advantage of the C2 and C3 stepping is VT-d support which is useful for hardware virtualization. Also, I'm pretty sure all the Sandy Bridge-E CPUs being produced at this point are C3 steppings. Regarding the longevity of X79, X79 should be compatible with Ivy Bridge-E so that's not a problem.
Source: http://www.techpowerup.com/155307/Ivy-Bridge-E-in-Q4-2012-Compatible-with-LGA2011-and-X79.html

nope only C2 i haven't heard anything about a C-3 stepping...

see sig rig, i think i know what i am talking about
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http://wccftech.com/intel-sandy-bridgee-platform-officially-released-core-i7-3960x-core-i7-3930k-redefine-high-performance-computing/
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Overclocking potential is not great at the moment but Intel has said that it would fix and improve in the new C3 stepping which would launch in Q1 2012 along with a new Quad Core Core i7 3820 Processor for Sandy Bridge-E. Additional cooling is required while overclocking beyond 4.5Ghz. The Stock Cooler is supplied separately for a retail price of 20$ while the new Liquid-Cooling System (RTS2011LC) would be available around 85-100$.

Anyway, stepping doesn't matter unless you need VT-d.
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no a C1 would work, and with the way it is looking a 3930k will have almost as fast of clockablility as the IVY CPU's
A RIVE would suit all your needs for 3-4 Years or something like that

A RIVE..?
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Originally Posted by Snowmen View Post

3930K CPUs of any stepping will work with PCI-E 3.0 if I'm not mistaken. The big advantage of the C2 and C3 stepping is VT-d support which is useful for hardware virtualization. Also, I'm pretty sure all the Sandy Bridge-E CPUs being produced at this point are C3 steppings. Regarding the longevity of X79, X79 should be compatible with Ivy Bridge-E so that's not a problem.
Source: http://www.techpowerup.com/155307/Ivy-Bridge-E-in-Q4-2012-Compatible-with-LGA2011-and-X79.html

Reading about VT-d and the source now....
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I believe that socket 1155 is finished after Ivy Bridge, so no more chipsets on that platform after Z77.

Ivy Bridge will be replaced by Haswell sometime in the future, on socket 1150 and will be both 22nm (and eventually Broadwell on 14nm)

Socket 2011 still has Ivy Bridge-E, coming some time in late 2013.

2011 should prove the best in terms of longevity.

Hope this helps thumb.gif


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A RIVE..?
Reading about VT-d and the source now....

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if anything Ivy bridge should clock slight better that an x79. really if you have need for those extra cores go a 3930k or why not a i7-13820 SB-E as an ivy bridge alternative then you will be ready for IB-E tho i its rumored that they will release a new chipset for IB-E tho it should be backwards compatible or forwards compatible..

personally if your just gaming or general use with some light encoding and ivy bridge i7-2770k or i5-3570k will still last a good 3 + years plus even if thier will be another tock next year thus a new socket lga1150 for haswel since you have not been with Intel since p3 days you will notice the difference..
Both will provide you the performance for nvidia 3D surround tho 3 way sli you might be better of going x79 thinking.gif
Edited by stubass - 4/14/12 at 12:36pm
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I vote for 3770K ph34r-smiley.gif
Edited by Schmuckley - 4/16/12 at 1:59am
 
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