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Well there are several post in which I have read about the new 680's and I would invest but I am always the pessimist about buying something that just came out, always feel as though they will all lemon out until manufacturers get it right.

Anywho I am thinking of upgrading from my sli msi twin frozr 470's, prior to a couple new game drops (D3 and GW2). Still cant decide on which direction to go.... My rig has a nice water cooling set up ready to add a couple g cards to the mix but not sure which ones. Considering dual 570's, namely due to the fact that I can get two for the price of one 680. Just open to opinions. So have at it.

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Well there are several post in which I have read about the new 680's and I would invest but I am always the pessimist about buying something that just came out, always feel as though they will all lemon out until manufacturers get it right.
Anywho I am thinking of upgrading from my sli msi twin frozr 470's, prior to a couple new game drops (D3 and GW2). Still cant decide on which direction to go.... My rig has a nice water cooling set up ready to add a couple g cards to the mix but not sure which ones. Considering dual 570's, namely due to the fact that I can get two for the price of one 680. Just open to opinions. So have at it.
Thanks in advance.
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This is true but in most games a single 680 performs almost or double the performance of a 580 smile.gif

If you can drop the cash the 680 is an amazing card and will perform better than most SLI setups in the same price range
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Going for 2 470s to 2 570s is pointless. Get the one 680.
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Good to know thank you, when I built my first rig i threw the 470's in just because of the fact that there were two of them. Figure it would reduce the stress on both, seems that most gamers nowadays are sticking to the single monster GPU. Guess that will be the next step in building my new rig.
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I'm in almost exactly the same spot. MY thought process is that I'd rather go with the single 680 since it draws less power and leaves me the option of adding a second 680 in the future if I ever see the need. If you go SLI again you're basically locked in to either living with those two cards or having to sell.
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Well there are several post in which I have read about the new 680's and I would invest but I am always the pessimist about buying something that just came out, always feel as though they will all lemon out until manufacturers get it right.
Anywho I am thinking of upgrading from my sli msi twin frozr 470's, prior to a couple new game drops (D3 and GW2). Still cant decide on which direction to go.... My rig has a nice water cooling set up ready to add a couple g cards to the mix but not sure which ones. Considering dual 570's, namely due to the fact that I can get two for the price of one 680. Just open to opinions. So have at it.
Thanks in advance.
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Are you looking for an upgrade in performance or heat/power consumption?
2 570's would step it up over 2 470's but not by an amazing amount.
1 680 is just about the same as 2 470's.

I'd try to go to 2 580's. 2 570's from 470's is more of a side grade. No difference in vram either.
Edited by pengs - 4/14/12 at 5:03pm
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Are you looking for an upgrade in performance or heat/power consumption.
2 570's would step it up over 2 470's but not by an amazing amount.
1 680 is just about the same as 2 470's.
I'd try to go to 2 580's. 2 570's from 470's is more of a side grade. No difference in vram either.

2 470s dont even close to in performance to a 680
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2 470s dont even close to in performance to a 680

It's very comparable and then you OC. Look through this review. http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-sli-review/8
I went through the whole contemplation also.
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It's very comparable and then you OC. Look through this review. http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-sli-review/8
I went through the whole contemplation also.

hmm.. I saw a review on youtube showing the GTX 680 pulling double or close to double framerates on most newer titles. I guess it also depends on the DirectX version as well. Lots of variables

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPYEOUH7LE
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2 470s dont even close to in performance to a 680

Yeah, they even are. At stock clocks the 680 may win by a tiny bit due to it's 66%+ clockspeed advantage, but when you consider many 470's can OC 35-40%, whereas it seems around 20% is the most people are able to OC the 680's thus far ... they come out very close to even, with the 470's probably usually winning.

Considering that over the last few days I just played Crysis 2 completely maxed out (ultra everything/dx11/high res textures), the large majority of the time it was at a steady 60fps, and I only had a couple times where the framerate dipped to the point where I could notice it happening, still playable though ... I can't see why anyone with anything less than 3 monitors (or maybe a 30") would consider upgrading from SLI 470's (unless you're really rich, or the noise really bugs ya ... my twin frozr's are reasonably quiet though wink.gif).

There's really no games out that require any more power than what they've got for normal 1920 gaming ... unless you're addicted to Metro2033 with ADoF or Witcher 2 with ubersampling ... cause those are the only two situations that challenge my cards significantly. And I'd bet that the 680 struggles with those just the same.

Put it this way, I doubt anyone with a 680 is significantly beating my GPU score on 3dMark11:

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