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Something tells me IB is still going to be a hell of a good processor even at "only" 4.8GHz. Some people just need to relax and stop expecting 1GHz OC improvements from a die-shrink...

People were spoiled by SB, hence why I've been saying IB will be a disappointment for a little while now. SB is so damn good that it not only made AMD look even worse, it's also going to make IB look worse than it actually is. Think like mid-life XP, it was so good that people forgot what it was like originally (ie. Buggy) and then wondered why Vista had its launch issues.
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Originally Posted by KOBALT View Post

i highly doubt Intel will release something that takes a step back in their progress. Come on people. Show a little faith. This is what a good portion of us have been waiting for. Even more so, it's from Intel. Nuff said.

And if they have issues they can't work around, what are they meant to do? I'm sure AMD would have liked to cancel BD and just release Piledriver as BD but they needed new product out.
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Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ View Post

You guys do realize that I've yet to see someone with an ES chip claim that Ivy clocks better than their Sandy? This isn't the first report that these chips run really hot.
I've even seen Kyle at [H] claim the exact same thing in the forums. I've seen several people at Xtreme systems claim the same one even uploaded screen shots at one point. I've yet to hear one reputable person claim the opposite.

I'm fairly sure there's proof it does better under extreme cooling. Not to mention, CPU performance is a balance of IPC versus Clock Speed. This will have higher IPC but lower clock speeds than SB from all current rumours, the idea behind BD is to have higher clock speeds but lower IPC. They're directly proportional to each other.
    
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Even on air, Ivy will likely perform slightly better than Sandy, in most cases.
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rolleyes.gif Where are you getting those number from?

4.8 / 5.2 = .923

So, those numbers are pretty accurate when looking at the average performance differential of the two architectures.
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Oh and good luck with a 4.8ghz Ivy with comfortable temps. wink.gif

Based on current reports 4.8GHz on air isn't that far fetched, not as much as 5.2GHz air on Sandy anyway.
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Still the stock Ivy will demolish the overclocked Sandy
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Originally Posted by LordZedd View Post

Need a 5.2Ghz 2500K to match a 4.8Ghz 3570K. Have fun with that

Since when could ALL 3570k's manage 4.8ghz? By the looks of things half of them will struggle to manage 4.6ghz.
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i highly doubt Intel will release something that takes a step back in their progress. Come on people. Show a little faith. This is what a good portion of us have been waiting for. Even more so, it's from Intel. Nuff said.

There is no step back in progress. Ivy is better than Sandy in every way that counts.

It's just that it's not as big a difference as some were hoping for.
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Since when could ALL 3570k's manage 4.8ghz? By the looks of things half of them will struggle to manage 4.6ghz.

And 95% of 2500ks won't reach 5.2GHz.

If Ivy can clock to ~92% of Sandy, Ivy will be just as fast. So far, Ivy seems to clock at least this well, even on air.
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I know this are retail CPU's they're testing now, but with any luck the C2 steppings won't have the same issues.
Didn't the C0 with SB-E have overclocking issues at first?

I'm going to hold off judgement for the time being.
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rolleyes.gif Where are you getting those number from?
Oh and good luck with a 4.8ghz Ivy with comfortable temps. wink.gif

My temps are quite comfortable with 4.6 on an H80. Once my Rasa arrives 4.8 will be even nicer. Played BF3 today for an hour and my max load temps were 72C @ 4.6Ghz with 1.35v.

I don't have an issue pushing this processor to 70C+ loads under water. It's a 220 dollar processor. If it goes just go on newegg and get another
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I'm fairly sure there's proof it does better under extreme cooling.

Yes there is but who uses LN2 24/7? I couldn't possibly care less about benching on extreme cooling to be honest.
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4.8 / 5.2 = .923

So, those numbers are pretty accurate when looking at the average performance differential of the two architectures.

In those best case scenarios where Ivy actually does show a 10% improvement in IPC performance clock per clock? Its hard to say that those numbers are even accurate given the few benchmarks out for Ivy.
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My temps are quite comfortable with 4.6 on an H80. Once my Rasa arrives 4.8 will be even nicer. Played BF3 today for an hour and my max load temps were 72C @ 4.6Ghz with 1.35v.
I don't have an issue pushing this processor to 70C+ loads under water. It's a 220 dollar processor. If it goes just go on newegg and get another

Thats not too bad but what do you see with Intel burn test and what fans are you using with that H80?
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This isn't surprising, it's what we've been hearing about Ivy since news started leaking out about them. It's hard to keep the individual cores cool, since they are so dense.
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Well, ivy does have pcie 3.0... So with sb, ill be running at x8 x8 pcie 2.0, while with ib ill be running at x8 x8 pcie 3.0
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i'd hate to say told you so but.. who am i kidding, i love saying that
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