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Lol, OCN provides such terrible advice when looking for a budget build. I'd ignore a fair number of those setups/posts.
xnuw put together a pretty darn good build, though. I'd modify it a bit by going to two websites.
If you want to use this exact list, you may want to buy today or very soon. Specials change.

CPU: i3-2100 -$115
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58339&vpn=BX80623I32100&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1259

Mobo - Gigabyte H61 - $55 AMIR
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63501&vpn=GA%2DH61M%2DS2H&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1259
cheaper than the one xnuw suggested, but not USB 3.0 or fast sata port luxuries. Most people don't really use those, however, so I think the savings is worth it in a budget build. On the other hand, if you don't want to deal with a mail in rebate, go with the board in xnuw's buld

GPU - 6770 - $80 AMIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131453
This is a worse video card than xnuw suggested.... but for your resolution it should perform like a champ. If you're planning to upgrade to a newer monitor (say 1920x1080 resolution), it'll run most games well, and the hardest games on low or medium graphics settings, but (at 1920x1080) you could do much better with a ~$150 6870.

RAM - 2x2gb - $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003
you could get 2x4gb for $18 more... but this is a budget build and you won't need more than 4gb for gaming use

DVD-burner - you own one, apparently

Case: haf 912 -$50
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&vpn=RC%2D912%2DKKN1&manufacture=COOLERMASTER&promoid=1259
best of the budget cases, you can go a little cheaper, but this is a genuinely good case.

HDD - 1TB 7200rpm - $90
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&manufacture=Others&promoid=1259
I cheated again, going for not-the-cheapest. You can get a 500gb HDD for $15 less. But hell, this one is double the capacity.

PSU - Rosewill Green 530w - $43 w/promo code
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182199
The PSU in xnuw's biuld is cheaper, more than enough wattage, and provides good quality power. In rare cases that model develops coil whine though (an irritating noise). The green series has slightly less quality power (but still decent) and a good quiet fan.

Total = $453 AMIR (+$20 or so at checkout because of mail in rebates.I already added shipping into the listed prices.)

Taking the notes I wrote into account, I don't see anywhere to shave a significant amount of $ off the price without really cutting performance. Except perhaps moving to a true dual-core processor for about $35 in savings... but the i3 will do better in games that can use more than 2 threads, so I wouldn't drop down in quality there. If it were me, I'd plan for a monitor upgrade & buy this graphics card ($140 AMIR):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161389
That's $60 more, a significant increase for this budget, but it'll perform great on a 1920x1080 resolution monitor - a pretty obvious place for you to upgrade int he future.

If this is more under-budget than you expected and you wanted to get the larger amount of ram (for no good reason, actually, just "who knows, whatever, dude"), then get this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424
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Lol, OCN provides such terrible advice when looking for a budget build. I'd ignore a fair number of those setups/posts.
xnuw put together a pretty darn good build, though. I'd modify it a bit by going to two websites.
If you want to use this exact list, you may want to buy today or very soon. Specials change.
CPU: i3-2100 -$115
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58339&vpn=BX80623I32100&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1259
Mobo - Gigabyte H61 - $55 AMIR
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63501&vpn=GA%2DH61M%2DS2H&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1259
cheaper than the one xnuw suggested, but not USB 3.0 or fast sata port luxuries. Most people don't really use those, however, so I think the savings is worth it in a budget build. On the other hand, if you don't want to deal with a mail in rebate, go with the board in xnuw's buld
GPU - 6770 - $80 AMIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131453
This is a worse video card than xnuw suggested.... but for your resolution it should perform like a champ. If you're planning to upgrade to a newer monitor (say 1920x1080 resolution), it'll run most games well, and the hardest games on low or medium graphics settings, but (at 1920x1080) you could do much better with a ~$150 6870.
RAM - 2x2gb - $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003
you could get 2x4gb for $18 more... but this is a budget build and you won't need more than 4gb for gaming use
DVD-burner - you own one, apparently
Case: haf 912 -$50
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&vpn=RC%2D912%2DKKN1&manufacture=COOLERMASTER&promoid=1259
best of the budget cases, you can go a little cheaper, but this is a genuinely good case.
HDD - 1TB 7200rpm - $90
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&manufacture=Others&promoid=1259
I cheated again, going for not-the-cheapest. You can get a 500gb HDD for $15 less. But hell, this one is double the capacity.
PSU - Rosewill Green 530w - $43 w/promo code
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182199
The PSU in xnuw's biuld is cheaper, more than enough wattage, and provides good quality power. In rare cases that model develops coil whine though (an irritating noise). The green series has slightly less quality power (but still decent) and a good quiet fan.
Total = $453 AMIR (+$20 or so at checkout because of mail in rebates.I already added shipping into the listed prices.)
Taking the notes I wrote into account, I don't see anywhere to shave a significant amount of $ off the price without really cutting performance. Except perhaps moving to a true dual-core processor for about $35 in savings... but the i3 will do better in games that can use more than 2 threads, so I wouldn't drop down in quality there. If it were me, I'd plan for a monitor upgrade & buy this graphics card ($140 AMIR):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161389
That's $60 more, a significant increase for this budget, but it'll perform great on a 1920x1080 resolution monitor - a pretty obvious place for you to upgrade int he future.
If this is more under-budget than you expected and you wanted to get the larger amount of ram (for no good reason, actually, just "who knows, whatever, dude"), then get this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424

While I agree with most of this post, the OP still has not specified a maximum budget (while the thread name seems to say otherwise) . The fact that the OP mentioned a $600 build without a HD, makes me believe that he can spend more than $500. If he can afford a P67/Z68/Z77 I5-2500k setup, by all means it will be the best bang for the buck in terms of longevity and performance. For a strict budget build, yours is one of the better ones, however if the OP can afford a more expensive setup, he definitely should.

In terms of your GPU selection, I agree that he does not need an HD6870 for his current monitor. This is why I suggested an HD6790, it is only ~$40 more, and can overclock to perform similarly to an HD6850. While he may or may not upgrade his monitor in the future, certainly the HD6790 will perform better at a higher resolution than the HD6770 will. Similarly the GTX460 will provide a similar experience for the same amount of cash. When coupled with the I3, his gaming experience will be adequate. Obviously the more he can spend on a GPU the better, as you have linked a card $30 more expensive, that will outperform the HD6790.

Another option that noone has seemed to mention yet is a used setup. There are quite a few deals on the marketplace here with the release of the HD7xxx series, the GTX6xx series and the Z77 motherboard, and shortly IB. Certainly he can get more bang for his buck on the marketplace.
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I agree with everything you just said, heh. Although I tend to value the time, effort, & money spent learning to overlock and overclocking higher than most OCN members and thus recommend it less. I was aiming to slim down the budget in general without hitting a certain price point, while not sacrificing a good (all-new) gaming rig for his purposes. I don't actually review the marketplace most of the time; certainly a good idea if the OP is component-savvy enough to mix & max parts correctly & not pay too much, you're right he can pick up some great deals there.

I dunno about the 6790, mostly because I think if a monitor upgrade is possibly in the cards the OP might as well go with the 6870 at that price. Then again, pricing changes. But I agree with your analysis of the performance.

Mostly... thanks for the compliment on the build!
    
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CPU: i5-2300 180$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115076

Mobo - Gigabyte H61 - $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128527

GPU -HIS Radeon HD 6870 140$ after mail rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161389

RAM - 2x4GB gskill 1333mhz 38$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424

DVD-burner - you got it already

Case: COOLER MASTER CM690 II 59.99$ after mail rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216

HDD - 1TB 7200rpm - $90
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&manufacture=Others&promoid=1259

PSU - Rosewill Green 530w - $43 w/promo code
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182199

All together cost 606$

I know it's over your budget, With this PC you'll be fine for at the least couple of years. Unfortunally i3 2100 will be nothing in future. You'll be suprised how much better TRUE Quad core is.
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Oh btw! If you got microcenter near you check screenshot there. Just so you know it's Z68 motherboard, so it has the feature called INTEL SRT, it will boost up performance of you Hard Drive dramaticly.
About GPU find here in OCN if someone is selling used 6870 for 100$
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Here are some tips for making about a $500 gaming computer build.
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