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I'll be using HDMI but wont be passing sound, I saw on a UK website that its clear motion rate is only 50 as compared to 100 on the D5000 model, though that feature is not really that important to me but Im wondering if ts in inferior panel , equal or slightly better?
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I'll be using HDMI but wont be passing sound, I saw on a UK website that its clear motion rate is only 50 as compared to 100 on the D5000 model, though that feature is not really that important to me but Im wondering if ts in inferior panel , equal or slightly better?

It also has a 100 clear motion rate, promise. also response time is better. It's not inferior at all, still a good panel. The only thing better is the LG 32LM6200 which will be around 30% more expensive and a lot thinner.

I'm considering the same panel and deal with Samsung, LG, Sony and more directly. This is the best choice in its range other than the LG, the only reason I'm not taking the LG is because I don't really use 3D and 100Hz doesn't really mean much unless you're an avid Blu-ray watcher, and I already have a TV for that so...

Overview:

D5000 - 8ms response time, 100 Clear Motion Rate(50Hz panel), edge LED

EH5000 - 2.1ms response time, 100 Clear Motion Rate(50Hz panel), edge LED, triple protection(basically a plastic coating on all circuitry inside the TV for a Long Life span)

Also the EH5000's screen has more of a matte finish which is better for PC use. Newer is better in this regard.

But your choice ultimately;-)
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This is also a good article to read regarding some of your questions: http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/lcd-response-time.html
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I've said this time and time again, HDTV's are horribad for gaming. Because of all the processing going in to make the image look good the input lag goes through the roof. Its feels like your using a ball mouse with the ball covered in gellatin.

Really google it, unless your hardly going to game and just watch movies (FPS is a definate no) HDTV's are a bad choice as a primary monitor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_lag

Also just because you tested input lag with a 1366x768 screen dosent mean it will be the same. The higher the resolution of the TV the longer it takes for the image to process hence the increased input dealy from your mouse. Your can test this by setting a 1080p LCD screen to 800x600, the mouse will feel alot 'snappier' simply because theres is less to display so input is a alot better.
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I've said this time and time again, HDTV's are horribad for gaming. Because of all the processing going in to make the image look good the input lag goes through the roof. Its feels like your using a ball mouse with the ball covered in gellatin.
Really google it, unless your hardly going to game and just watch movies (FPS is a definate no) HDTV's are a bad choice as a primary monitor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_lag
Also just because you tested input lag with a 1366x768 screen dosent mean it will be the same. The higher the resolution of the TV the longer it takes for the image to process hence the increased input dealy from your mouse. Your can test this by setting a 1080p LCD screen to 800x600, the mouse will feel alot 'snappier' simply because theres is less to display so input is a alot better.

Maybe I am one of those who cannot notice such things, I cant even perceive the input latency of a wireless mouse vs wired. I've also testing it on 800x600 and I absolutely see no difference aside from I require a shorter swipe to move the mouse from one end to the other, based on what you've said a 30" Apple monitor at 2560x1600 should have a very high input lag as compared to a 22" 1680x1050 TN monitor, since it has more pixels to push, I cannot perceive any input lag what-so-ever.

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It also has a 100 clear motion rate, promise. also response time is better. It's not inferior at all, still a good panel. The only thing better is the LG 32LM6200 which will be around 30% more expensive and a lot thinner.
I'm considering the same panel and deal with Samsung, LG, Sony and more directly. This is the best choice in its range other than the LG, the only reason I'm not taking the LG is because I don't really use 3D and 100Hz doesn't really mean much unless you're an avid Blu-ray watcher, and I already have a TV for that so...
Overview:
D5000 - 8ms response time, 100 Clear Motion Rate(50Hz panel), edge LED
EH5000 - 2.1ms response time, 100 Clear Motion Rate(50Hz panel), edge LED, triple protection(basically a plastic coating on all circuitry inside the TV for a Long Life span)
Also the EH5000's screen has more of a matte finish which is better for PC use. Newer is better in this regard.
But your choice ultimately;-)

Chances are I will be getting the 32EH5000 since the added features on the LM6200 is something I cannot use or need for my PC monitor usage.
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EH5000 - 2.1ms response time, 100 Clear Motion Rate(50Hz panel)

Wait, why is the panel 50Hz, isnt it supposed to be 60Hz?
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I highly, highly recommend you do not try this. I know from experience, it is not a good solution. HDTVs are just not suitable primary monitors.
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I highly, highly recommend you do not try this. I know from experience, it is not a good solution. HDTVs are just not suitable primary monitors.
I second this, most HDTV's lack the color palette that monitors have and will make your games look terrible. As Murlocke said you wont see the same kind of quality till you hit the 4 digit price range in TV's. See this comparison here:
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be careful with lag though, i used my 3D bravia 32" tv, and the mouse lag is very annoying
you want something with a faster response time

Very much this, TVs generally do not make good Primary PC monitors. You must be quite rich to afford all that gear. biggrin.gif (I live in the Philippines too)
   
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I second this, most HDTV's lack the color palette that monitors have and will make your games look terrible. As Murlocke said you wont see the same kind of quality till you hit the 4 digit price range in TV's. See this comparison here:

EDIT: You know whats funny? The guy who uploaded that video says "If only PC Monitors could have a quality like TVs...". I hope he's being sarcastic with this comparison, because the TV in that comparison is way too saturated and far from how the game intends it. I can't believe how many people crank the brightness/color up and think "this is a superior picture!!".

I assume he's comparing a $300 TV to a $300 monitor or something. I know I've sat down with my high end 30" 2560x1600 (which cost me $1200) and compared it to my 55" HX929 (which cost me $2800), and I greatly preferred my HX929 for monitor use. I use my HX929 for everything now, movies, games, monitor, etc. I'm using it right now and the text is crisp and clear. Granted, this is still arguably the best LED TV on the market, and cost $3,600 when it launched.

I always get fustrated with the input lag and "HDTV are not good monitors" comments. It's simply not true, most TVs now have gaming modes AND monitor modes, the higher up you go the better the results. My HX929 automatically switches between them. When I go into a game it goes into game mode, and when i'm on the desktop it goes into monitor mode. When I play a movie, it goes into movie mode and that's where the input delay kicks in. I tested the input lag on this versus my 30", and the 30" had more.

Bottom line: If you are willing to spend $2,000+ on the TV, they make VERY good monitors at 6+ feet. If you aren't, then get a monitor. I would not trade my HX929 for any monitor, including 120hz and 2560x1600 monitors. I've tested them all, and I always go back to the HX929. thumb.gif
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I can understand that some are really against using HDTVs has their primary monitor for various reasons, but surely the Samsung 32" EH5000 is not inferior to my Samsung T220?
The only IPS monitors we have locally available is the LG eIPS236V and the upcoming LG IPS4, no other IPS based panels, all we have are TN panels like the 27" Samsung which also costs more than the 32 EH5000 due to its 3d features. If it were that easy to source a Dell U2410 here in the Philippines then it would automatically solve this problem.
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