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Originally Posted by Ch13f121
You might want to check on this before you buy, but that board has a ATI southbridge, and from what I hear, they suck big time, such as usb ports spazzing out and whatnot- but find out from someone else, because I haven't ever owned a ati board I do know that a lot of mobo manufacturers use ULi southbridges to get around ATi's bugs.
Funny you should say that. I've seen some pictures of this board all ripped apart, and now that you mention that, I recall seeing ULi chips all over that board. In fact, if my memory serves me right, I do believe that the southbridge did have ULi stamped on it. The only reason I recall this is because I believed the SB to be an ATI, and thought the ULi stamping was strange. Perhaps it is a ULi design, built by ATI?? I dont know, but this board had the highest rating I could find for an ATI/Crossfire capable board.

If you guys have any other suggestions for a good motherboard, let me hear it! I'd prefer to have the ATI northbridge if possible, and to be perfectly honest, it really DOESNT have to have the extra pci-e slot for crossfire. I would be perfectly happy running my X1950XTX by its lonesome if I know the board is going to overclock well (just a little) and not give me problems now, or down the road.
    
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Oh, well then don't worry about it, lol newegg specs say ATi SB600, but they might have changed it.
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Originally Posted by revan05
I would be perfectly happy running my X1950XTX by its lonesome if I know the board is going to overclock well (just a little) and not give me problems now, or down the road.
Hey mate, I have a comment or two.
Firstly this card is ALL ATI, so there's no ULI SB on it. It has the RD580 NB and the S600 SB. An older ATI SB, the S480 really did suck with the USB devices, but as far as SATA trasnsfer rates are concerned ATI SBs were always good and that's what matters the most.
Secondly this is a bad bad card to OC. It also has memory compatibility issues. With every BIOS revision that passes things improve but 3 weeks ago it couldn't even use DDR2@800MHz, so read on ECS's site what types of mem are compatible with this board.
Other than that, I wish you good luck with whatever you're buying and enjoy your rig.
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It is best that you reformat. Just to keep things kosher.
    
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After some searching, I too read about the problems that you had described with the ATI's bridges. It seems to me as though the problems dont neccessarily come from the southbridge itself, but rather problems with drivers and incompatabilities between certain hardware/software configurations.

I read alot of interesting things in regards to AMD & ATI, socket AM2 and the future of the crossfire setup, such to do with the on-die memory controller and also problems with HT Link speed. AMD is still having problems with memory controllers, which I myself have been witness to-(especially when using DIMM slots 3 and 4 *channels 4 to 7*, basically anything over 2gb of RAM) From what I've read, the problems with the bridges have been taken care of, not fully by ATI, but rather by each individual board manufacturer.

The updated bios for this particular board manages to spark alot of extra life out of system memory and also FSB speeds. Better detection of RAM modules, better control over board voltage, and also a much needed control upgrade for the crossfire capability. The initial release of this board had a load of problems, but since revision 1.0m, the ATI XPRESS-3200 is on par with the nvidia nforce570 series. While the ATI XPRESS-1100 is the equivalent of nvidia's nforce4.

Ok, so I'm getting a little off-topic here, but when it comes to any kind of hardware that I'm using or may be using in the future, I cant help myself.

Take note that I personally cannot verify ANY of this information. This is all info that I've found around the net, as well as a 1hr discussion with my cousin (who is a computer tech/programmer for NASA), who just seems to know everything lol.

He really put it best when he said, "hell, buy the board, hook it up, see what happens, and go from there." I guess the worst that could happen is everything locks up/crashes and becomes the newest addition to my garbage can, or I end up with a smoking system and all will be well...

I guess time will tell
    
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OK - first off, to correct myself: the ECS was NOT the board I saw that had the ULi chips on it. I believe it may have been one of the other boards I was looking at. Either a MSI or possibly a Gigabyte? I'm not positive. Also, the ECS website, as well as many users of the board state that the board is compatible with PC2-6400 (800mhz). I'm thinking that perhaps the initial problems people were having with the board were mainly voltage problems, since different ram requires diff. voltages to run at the same speeds. I actually kind of prefer to run 667mhz sticks if possible, mainly due to the fact that the latency is usually much lower, at much lower voltages. Example, I just bought the Crucial Anniversary PC2-5300, running 3-3-3-12 at only 1.9v-2.0v.

Also, I've always thought that the processor determined what type of RAM you can run (For AMD's anyhow). Is this wrong? What does determine the size/speed of allowable RAM? Thanks again for all the feedback!
    
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