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What? How can you sue Apple for this. Clearly the parents didn't read the terms and conditions of the app. Apple has got nothing to do with apps being made, they are all third party. If the parents are going to sue someone it should be the makers of the app. But I still don't think they should sue if they are not supervising what their kids do. I don't see why an app maker (or Apple) should parent their kids for them.
Also this
The parents would have had to put their credit-card details in. If they did that then it's their own fault for getting £70 bills at the end of the month, not Apples.

I'm on a droid so I can't speak for the iphones but we seem to have conflicting info already from some of the posters for microtransactions. What I find incredibly funny about these responses is how its sudden 'common sense' to know how to get into a phone and set the restrictions. Its great to look down on people that don't possess your knowledge but remember, its virtually impossible to stay up-to-date about every area of life. While you guys are feeling high and mighty about certain sections of tech, there's so many other areas of life. I bet 9/10s of you guys couldnt do moderate maintenance on your car or house.
    
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This has already been fixed... LOL.

It requires a password now when you try to purchase things. Don't give your kids your password and you're fine.
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I'm on a droid so I can't speak for the iphones but we seem to have conflicting info already from some of the posters for microtransactions. What I find incredibly funny about these responses is how its sudden 'common sense' to know how to get into a phone and set the restrictions. Its great to look down on people that don't possess your knowledge but remember, its virtually impossible to stay up-to-date about every area of life. While you guys are feeling high and mighty about certain sections of tech, there's so many other areas of life. I bet 9/10s of you guys couldnt do moderate maintenance on your car or house.

are you equating tapping through different screens on your phone (which can easily be assisted by a vague google search) to installing headers on your car or fixing a houses central air system?? I understand where you are coming from, but your examples are terrible, and in the end your point is just wrong. Saying your comparing apples to oranges would be an understatement, more like comparing apples to koala bears

first google item in my search : http://www.demogeek.com/2009/07/01/restrict-iphone-usage-with-iphone-parental-control-restrictions/
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Both are at fault Parents for not owning up to their responsibility and apple for being so greedy as to attempt to take advantage of children to gain more profits. There now everyone can be happy.
     
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Both are at fault Parents for not owning up to their responsibility and apple for being so greedy as to attempt to take advantage of children to gain more profits. There now everyone can be happy.

even though i despise apple, i highly doubt they boardroom meetings contained "lets make tons of apps with $100's + of microtrans in hopes 3-9 year olds steal their parents phones and purchase it". Pretty sure they are making enough money as is, plus its not like microtrans are apple specific, its across all platforms.
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I'm on a droid so I can't speak for the iphones but we seem to have conflicting info already from some of the posters for microtransactions. What I find incredibly funny about these responses is how its sudden 'common sense' to know how to get into a phone and set the restrictions. Its great to look down on people that don't possess your knowledge but remember, its virtually impossible to stay up-to-date about every area of life. While you guys are feeling high and mighty about certain sections of tech, there's so many other areas of life. I bet 9/10s of you guys couldnt do moderate maintenance on your car or house.

I'm not saying that it's common sense to set restrictions on your kids phone, that should have already been done by default so Apple is kind of to blame for this, but the parents are even more to blame because you need a credit-card before you make purchases. Common sense will tell you not to give your kids your credit card details because they will end up doing something like this. Obviously I know more about restrictions on phones than these parents (and even literately everyone I personally know), but I'm not saying it's their fault solely because they don't know about these restrictions.
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This has already been fixed... LOL.
It requires a password now when you try to purchase things. Don't give your kids your password and you're fine.

IIRC you needed a password when you bought things (or even tried to get free apps) from the app store since 2007.
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Agreed. All apps that have microtrans have a plus (+) symbol next to the install button. If parents are worried about microtransactions then they shouldn't be letting their kids download those apps, or they can simply ground their kids for spending a bunch of money that they didn't have permission to spend. So many parents these days are pathetic, it seems like anytime I go somewhere where there are a lot of people (like a grocery store) there are kids whining about something they want and their parents cave and give it to them, or the kid continues to do bad things and the parents do nothing. /rant

No, the plus sign means it's compatible for both iPad and iPhone/iPodTouch


xD LULZ Who would ever give their 4 year olds their Apple Store account? And THAT's the only way to do an in app purchase.
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even though i despise apple, i highly doubt they boardroom meetings contained "lets make tons of apps with $100's + of microtrans in hopes 3-9 year olds steal their parents phones and purchase it". Pretty sure they are making enough money as is, plus its not like microtrans are apple specific, its across all platforms.

Then you haven't been in many boardroom/ marketing meetings. This kind of stuff comes up all the time.

While Apple may not have specifically targeted children, they had to know this would happen and chose to do nothing to prevent it. Not that I blame them. It's not their responsibility to watch after peoples kids even if they think it was wise to hand a $600+ phone to a child. Here's a hint parents: Your phone is not a toy for a child to play with.

Are these the same parents that would sue if the kid got their memory or sim card out and choked to death on it?
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I'm not saying that it's common sense to set restrictions on your kids phone, that should have already been done by default so Apple is kind of to blame for this, but the parents are even more to blame because you need a credit-card before you make purchases. Common sense will tell you not to give your kids your credit card details because they will end up doing something like this. Obviously I know more about restrictions on phones than these parents (and even literately everyone I personally know), but I'm not saying it's their fault solely because they don't know about these restrictions.
IIRC you needed a password when you bought things (or even tried to get free apps) from the app store since 2007.

Uhm, NO!

Do you really think it is wise to give a kid a phone to play with? Come on guys these devices are not meant to be used by young children. Would you hand a child a $600 video card to play with?
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Both are at fault Parents for not owning up to their responsibility and apple for being so greedy as to attempt to take advantage of children to gain more profits. There now everyone can be happy.

Except that you are completely wrong. In-app purchases have been around on the internet as long as F2P online games have, even longer actually. Apple provided a method to restrict in-app purchases. I wouldn't say it is common sense to know about this feature, but it IS common sense to inquire about parental restrictions if you are going to let a little kid play with it. It is not up to Apple to babysit parents who are dumb enough to hand a child a device connected to their account with their CC info and provide them with their password.
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