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People here aren't anti-bulldozer as such, we just can't recommend in good conscience, a chip which draws 300w in some cases and can't outperform an intel that draws 130w at around the same price. It's not the number of cores that matters, it's how powerful those cores are and the intel quads always outdo or tie with BDs 8.

EDIT: come to think of it, if you already have a 2600K then the only real upgrade would be to get a 3930K which is a bit out of your price range.
Edited by DirektEffekt - 4/16/12 at 4:17pm
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Sandy bridge beats bulldozer clock to clock, at last in the tests I've seen. Unless your doing a massively multithreaded application, the SB architecture will win every time at the same clock, with lower power draw. Not only that, they are better at limited threaded apps, therefor making all of your applications faster even if they are not using all 8 threads. I really want to buy a bulldozer to see if it's true, but by 2500k gets me through everything I do, and it's all pretty CPU heavy. Hope this helps sum things up.

PS: Power draw is less too as others have stated, and I believe (though I'm not 100% sure) that the 2600k is easier to stabilize on high clocks than BD because it only has 1/2 the physical cores, but still 8 threads.
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My vote goes for a 960T,1090T,or 1100T 4-6 true cores..chew right through info.Tell you what..AMD 6-core @ 4+ Ghz is a lot faster than that xeon i just cilled :lachen.gif:
No FX chip..We'll see if AMD brings anything worthwhile to the table later this year wink.gif
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Thanks for the info. It sounds like most people are recommending I stick witha 2600k. I built my last photobiz rig with a 2600k in a Z68 chipset. keeping the same chipset will help me with a little bit of upgrading (Ivy Bridge) for instance. So my question is, what processors will fit the z68 chipset that are more than 4 cores. Someone mentioned the 3930k, are there any others? Will 3930k fit the z68 chipset?
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Only the "enthusiast" platforms have 6 cores at the moment on Intel platforms. The3011 socket will allow you the 3930k if you'd want, but that's really not considered affordable. Intel is always about a more powerful core, while AMD tries to make more cores to keep up, I'm an AMD fan, but right now, the 2600k is the most "bang for your buck" when it comes to what your doing. The extra 2 cores cost way too much on the 2011 socket unless you want 2 xeons, and that's nowhere in your price range.
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Originally Posted by MAKATTACK View Post

Thanks for the info. It sounds like most people are recommending I stick witha 2600k. I built my last photobiz rig with a 2600k in a Z68 chipset. keeping the same chipset will help me with a little bit of upgrading (Ivy Bridge) for instance. So my question is, what processors will fit the z68 chipset that are more than 4 cores. Someone mentioned the 3930k, are there any others? Will 3930k fit the z68 chipset?

No, the 3930K goes in LGA2011(x79 chipset). What I'd do if at all possible is to get a 3820 for a tad over 300, then you can upgrade to a 3930K (or the IVB-E equivalent) whenever you can.
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Thanks for the info. My goal is to have a system in which I can just drop in a new processor with more cores in a few years. Hopefully pricing on the hexcore cpu's and others will come down by then. So if I understand this right, the 2600k takes the LGA 1155 socket and either a p67 or z68 chipset. Are there any other cpus with more cores that fit the LGA1155 socket and z68 chipset? From what you are saying, it sounds like the 3930k would require a new mobo (which I'm tryiyng to avoid)....

I'm not sure how much processors come down over time....it would be nice to get a 6 core or true 8 core processor in 3-5 years for the same price as a 2600k now...

maybe this isn't possible?
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So is everyone here pretty anti Bulldozer? I'm just afraid I will be wishing I had more core s in 3 years....

Neither a 2600k nor an FX-8150 are going to be very impressive in three years, and a 2600k isn't likely to age any less gracefully.
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Yeah a 2600k quad core with HT (basically 8 cores) is better. 4ghz on air might be tricky idk, but its your best bet.

HT doesn't make a 2600k "basically 8 cores", but it certainly puts it on par with the 8150 in well threaded tasks.

Most 2600ks can reach 4GHz on very basic cooling, a good number can run 4GHz with the stock cooler.
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Originally Posted by DirektEffekt View Post

People here aren't anti-bulldozer as such, we just can't recommend in good conscience, a chip which draws 300w in some cases and can't outperform an intel that draws 130w at around the same price.

A 2600k near it's max OC on air will pull a hell of a lot more than 130w.
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Originally Posted by MAKATTACK View Post

Thanks for the info. It sounds like most people are recommending I stick witha 2600k. I built my last photobiz rig with a 2600k in a Z68 chipset. keeping the same chipset will help me with a little bit of upgrading (Ivy Bridge) for instance. So my question is, what processors will fit the z68 chipset that are more than 4 cores. Someone mentioned the 3930k, are there any others? Will 3930k fit the z68 chipset?

Chipset is irrelevant.

The platform is LGA-1155 and there are no processors released, announced, or even reliably rumored for this socket that have more than four cores.

The i7 3xxx line is for LGA-2011 which is a different platform entirely.
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I'm not sure how much processors come down over time....it would be nice to get a 6 core or true 8 core processor in 3-5 years for the same price as a 2600k now...
maybe this isn't possible?

It's more than possible, it's inevitable.

There is almost no conceivable way you will not be able to get 8+ core CPUs for a mainstream socket for much less than a 2600k costs now, 3-5 years from now.
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You really should stick with the 2600K and overclock it, it is very easy, use a guide and dedicate at least a day to it.. Also, if you don't already have one (I hope you do), buy an aftermarket cooler. It will perform better than the FX 8 core in your applications.

And the site is not anti-bulldozer or anti-AMD, people will recommend the best for you and your budget, and right now it is not a smart buy to get AMD unless you get the 960T for a mid range gaming rig.
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You really should stick with the 2600K and overclock it, it is very easy, use a guide and dedicate at least a day to it.. Also, if you don't already have one (I hope you do), buy an aftermarket cooler. It will perform better than the FX 8 core in your applications.
And the site is not anti-bulldozer or anti-AMD, people will recommend the best for you and your budget, and right now it is not a smart buy to get AMD unless you get the 960T for a mid range gaming rig.

*facepalm*

He wants a 6-core soon. And SNB-E (or IVB-E) will provide him with upgradeability to it.
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