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Hmm... What about amps? Do y'all have a good place to pick up a dual channel amp that outputs 150w at 8 ohms? After a bit of pondering I think the best way to go is troll Craigslist for a while trying to find a great deal on a sub until I get my infinity 163's properly amp'd as right now they are only being fed 80w. Kind of a waste imo.

Going from 80 to 150 watts would only give you a ~3db boost. But if you want, Emotiva's amps are solid as well as the pro ones from Crown, QSC, and Behringer. But I'd rather get a higher quality amp than one with more watts, since the db boost will only be 3 (and once compression comes into play, it won't matter).

On topic though, you won't really get a "high-quality" sub for $300, unless you find a used SVS PB-10 or something. But popular subs for the price would be the Polk 505, BIC F12, BIC V1220, Dayton Sub-1200, Energy 10" subs, PL-200, HSU STF-1/2 Not much extension or flat response, but hey, can't argue for the price.

Also, a good "music" sub is also a good "HT" sub. Extension or volume isn't a direct measure of "accuracy" or transient response. Because then that would go into the sealed vs ported argument, which is another topic. Only for most budget subs does that kinda come into play, due to design compromises.

Or another route would be DIY, like a Dayton Classic 10" with a 240B amp in a ~2ft^3 box. Of course, that would only work if you already have the tools: drills, jigsaw, clamps.
Edited by Eugenester - 4/18/12 at 10:59pm
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Going from 80 to 150 watts would only give you a ~3db boost. But if you want, Emotiva's amps are solid as well as the pro ones from Crown, QSC, and Behringer. But I'd rather get a higher quality amp than one with more watts, since the db boost will only be 3 (and once compression comes into play, it won't matter).
On topic though, you won't really get a "high-quality" sub for $300, unless you find a used SVS PB-10 or something. But popular subs for the price would be the Polk 505, BIC F12, BIC V1220, Dayton Sub-1200, Energy 10" subs, PL-200. Not much extension or flat response, but hey, can't argue for the price.
Also, a good "music" sub is also a good "HT" sub. Extension or volume isn't a direct measure of "accuracy" or transient response. Because then that would go into the sealed vs ported argument, which is another topic. Only for most budget subs does that kinda come into play, due to design compromises.
Or another route would be DIY, like a Dayton Classic 10" with a 240B amp in a ~2ft^3 box. Of course, that would only work if you already have the tools: drills, jigsaw, clamps.

Yeah, I'm rethinking that one. As no one is home and I can crank them up a bit, they are sounding lovely... haha. <-- just being a tard. But I do think they could sound better if they were run by something better than my Pioneer VSX-521-k redface.gif.

I also wouldn't mind thoughts on what would be better quality wise, analogue from the sound-card to the receiver to be amped or use the AVR via a optical cable and let it amp as well. I think running analogue from my Xonar DX would be better, but again I'm not very good with this stuff yet.

Anyways,
I am content with a DIY, I built my own enclosure for my car sub which was a 12" fockford fosgate p3 1000w that I built an enclosure for that fit into my 01 Honda civic coupe's trunk, I'd say it took up about 1/3 of the trunk, and also was not able to be even fully used since my car would have fallen apart, or I'd be deaf. But it sounded very good, I just would have preferred something a little bit tighter. It was the first enclosure I had built so it wasn't as tight as it could have been. So I sold that and got some new 6x9's and door speakers instead and pocketed the rest for home audio gear. --- in short, I'd be fine with building a DIY if it was a better deal.

I'm looking through the local Craigslist trying to find a good deal on a "musical" sub. I think for what I'd ideally want to spend, a used would be the way to go. $200 is what I think I want to put into one depending on the deals I find.
Edited by The_Hairy_Yak - 4/19/12 at 1:47pm
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Sub 15" $90
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=295-470

Box 15" (High Quality) $140
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=302-830&scqty=1

Amp 500w @ 4 ohm ($220)
http://www.oaudio.com/500W_SUBAMP.html

OR

Amp 500w @ 4 ohm ($260)
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-807


Total $90 + $140 + $220 = $450 if you dont want to build your own box.

This setup when used correctly will get you evicted from your apartment in less than 2 weeks. Or have the HOA kick down your front door.

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Or here is a DIY sub for $160 shipped. The guys on this forum KNOW what they are doing and this box will kick balls
http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?t=231291

It doesn't have an amp, but you can get the Parts Express 250w for $120.

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-803
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Well as of right now tomorrow morning I may be going to pick up a BIC H100, BIC formula FH56-BAR, and an Okoyo HT-R530 for ~$400 biggrin.gif. So we'll see how well it turns out. I will probably demo my receivers and get rid of the one I like less, maybe keep the sound bar or get rid of it, I'll know once I test it with my setup.

I decided it wasn't worth it. rolleyes.gif
Edited by The_Hairy_Yak - 4/30/12 at 1:31pm
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Or here is a DIY sub for $160 shipped. The guys on this forum KNOW what they are doing and this box will kick balls
http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?t=231291
It doesn't have an amp, but you can get the Parts Express 250w for $120.
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-803

I'm interested about that, but it looks like a car sub?
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^^^^^^

Bass is bass is bass. Its made out of 3/4" MDF to the ideal box volume for that sub. The box size and quality of box construction is way more important than paying for a boutique brand subwoofer in a pressboard box. Email the guy and ask him some questions. Most of the guys on that website have trained and discerning ears. Also the passive radiator greatly increases the efficiency of the sub and you might be able to get away with less power.


I also recommend you look into this:

http://www.diysoundgroup.com/anarchy-th.html

The anarchy trapped horn is the grand-daddy of efficient bass. It does require you to glue it all together, but for that price, the box is a steal.

Here is a thread on the sub. Flat response from 25hz to 100hz with only 100w of power !?!?!?! Sounds like its right up your alley.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1238398
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I agree about the BIC F12 man. Bought one a couple of months ago, and it's the first subwoofer I've bought that I'm happy with!
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