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120GB is plenty for any OS + all your programs + a few games you play regularly with space leftover, unless they are all MMOs lol.

Sorry, but just no. My program files folder is almost 800gb - 450 of which is steam. There's no way I'd fit all my programs on one of these drives, let alone any games on top of that. 120 is just too small. The minimum SSD I'd go for is a 240, even that would be an inconvenience.

Having stuff spread over different drives (SSD and HDD) is enough of an annoyance for me to ignore the difference in loading times. The amount of time I'd spend deciding what to put where wouldn't be made up by the SSD's performance gain.

You have 350GB worth of programs that aren't games?

I said programs and a few games you play regularly, not every single game you own.

If you really have 350GB worth of programs you should do some spring cleaning and remove redundancies..
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Do you click on things on Windows 7..?

Everything you do, every website you open, every call to the OS is done instantly, not waiting for a HD. I don't think you are aware of how often the computer queieres the HD to maintain all those OS hooks in the background.





Lets be real here, you don't know...         because you assume.

But, an SSD can locate 200 files and deliver them to your OS faster than, your HD can even SEEK & LOCATE the information of the first file...  & you claim that type of performance can't be noticed. Or are you still in denial of what an SSD is & does for the end user?

How is $79 a cash drain?






What I'm saying is, how can it do it faster than instantly? Nothing takes any time whatsoever to do anything on this computer. I do not understand how it could be any faster. The only thing that could be faster is opening 30gb uncompressed bluray files, but given that I'd only fit 3 of those on a 120gb SSD with an OS on it which costs £120, I think I'll pass. Oh, and games, but we've covered that point. I know how often the HD is used by the OS, but if I don't notice it and everything opens absolutely instantly for me, why would I pay to go faster than that? And I do know, I've tried SSD's before.

Give me an example of a day to day operation in windows 7 where I'd be wishing I had an SSD?

I'm not saying it can't be noticed per se, just that I personally don't think it would make the slightest bit of difference to my personal computer use. An SSD would do literally nothing for me, other than steal my money.
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Do you have any exact numbers that hitachi are the leaders in enterprise storage? What kind of reliabilty do they offer compared to WD RE4? (sorry for OT)
And I guess lastly, how do the old raptors compare with the RE4's for comparision I guess?
I agree that SSDs are the obvious choice for a home PC that wants reliability and speed and no HDD can compete ever.. It's just as simple as moving parts vs no moving parts... A platter can never spin fast enough to compete with electrons..
Sorry... I meant to say Seagate and Hitachi are the big players in enterprise storage.


I dug up some numbers and found that Seagate is really dominate in this space (much more than I though):

In 10Q4, http://www.isuppli.com/memory-and-storage/news/pages/western-digital-to-become-dominant-hard-drive-maker-with-hitachi-acquisition.aspx
1% of WD HDDs goes to servers.
65% of Seagate HDDs goes to servers.
27% of Hitachi HDDs goes to servers.
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This thread is turning hilariously into hdd vs ssd.

a) SSD's are expensive. You might not view $1-$2 / gb as inexpensive but that's expensive to a lot of people. Remember there's people who consider a 50 cent bus fare rate hike to be crazy.
b) You don't *need* a ssd. The world got along fine for years and years with slow magnetic mediums. SSD's haven't even been vaguely mainstream for more than a year or so. You can built a perfectly decent gaming rig and not use an SSD
c) There are everyday tasks that an enthusiast will do that would benefit from an SSD. I know my hdd's in raid 0 thrash when boothing and thrash to load ff. Thrash thrash thrash even though I have auto-defrag running in the background.
d) For a lot of people, we have massive libraries of games and progs that just won't fit on an SSD. For me having a super fast boot drive might be great, but I'm not going to half ass it. It's either everything SSD or nothing SSD (obviously with a large hdd for non-frequently accessed stuff).

The real debate is whether or not velociraptors have a place between raided 7200 rpm drives (or even single 7200 rpm drives) and an SSD. My opinion is that they don't. Maybe they're meant for people who want their porn accessible really fast and have money to burn. yessir.gif
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Sorry... I meant to say Seagate and Hitachi are the big players in enterprise storage.
I dug up some numbers and found that Seagate is really dominate in this space (much more than I though):
In 10Q4, http://www.isuppli.com/memory-and-storage/news/pages/western-digital-to-become-dominant-hard-drive-maker-with-hitachi-acquisition.aspx
1% of WD HDDs goes to servers.
65% of Seagate HDDs goes to servers.
27% of Hitachi HDDs goes to servers.

I didn't mean to find the one post you made a mistake in medieval.gif

Lol, I didn't realize WD only had 1%, in my experience they are much more reliable -- at least due to the 7200.10 fiasco....

Are they not? WD Blacks seem to be market leaders in consumer space
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Not everyone wants to have two drives. Also, these are hella popular for Data Centers

They're not SAS so I really doubt that.
    
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I still run V raptors in my systems. I cant afford one that will hold my 400+ gigs of games, and dont want to hassle with multiple drives, aside from a pure document storage drive.

Just bought a 450gig V raptor and love it so far. Dont want the hassle of an SSD and dealing with trim, secure erases, etc.
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I have a ssd in my everyday pc but i have almost 700gb in games on my gaming pc so i will pick one of these 1tb v raptor's up.
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I still run V raptors in my systems. I cant afford one that will hold my 400+ gigs of games, and dont want to hassle with multiple drives, aside from a pure document storage drive.
Just bought a 450gig V raptor and love it so far. Dont want the hassle of an SSD and dealing with trim, secure erases, etc.

lol, they are hardly a hassle
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Were an enthusiast site right?
If you are talking speed wise, you get way more speed for your money with SSD. Most platter drives are over 120 still.
1TB is 100 or so, and more than 10x slower. And SATA6 in a HDD is even more expensive.
Even on unemployment I could afford to buy an SSD

That's true, but £100 for 120GB isn't everyone's idea of good value tongue.gif For me SSD's aren't worth it at the moment.
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