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Lately, I have been using the HTC One X, One S, and Samsung Galaxy Note. These devices have fantastic hardware specifications and they overwhelmed me a bit so I was having second thoughts about my HTC Radar 4G and the Windows Phone platform. I then listened to Joshua Topolsky on The Vergecast and read a few articles online questioning the long term success of Windows Phone and asking if Microsoft should just give up on the smartphone market. I thus felt the need to put together another pro-Windows Phone blog post after putting my SIM back into my HTC Radar 4G and realizing Windows Phone really is my preferred smartphone platform and I can’t help but believe it truly is the third viable modern platform.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phones/windows-phone-is-great-so-why-arent-more-people-buying-them/7434
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I may know a reason. It's called contracts. And in cases where that isn't the issue, switching costs (monetary and non-monetary) can be a problem. I myself really want to get a Windows Phone when my current contract with TMo expires.
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I think that the biggest problem is that people come into the store to buy a Windows Phone, and then are SO easily led to buy an Android or iPhone instead by the comission-hungry sales reps.
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Because it's not great. The marketing was tongue.gif
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I see everyone with Iphones these days, I think people like better apple and android.

 

 

People don't know windows phone yet.


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As a Windows Phone Owner and someone who owned phones with all other OS's, I would have to narrow down Windows Phone 7's "success" to the following:
- initial availability
- very young app market
- lots of low-quality apps in an attempt to fill up the app library
- less than stellar initial advertising (I only found out about it because I browse tech news sites)
- the Windows name which hurts the image quite a bit
- not enough knowledge of the OS's capabilities on the sales people's part
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I can imagine people having paid a fair amount on apps for their current platform. Having to re-purchase the apps (if they're available on WP to begin with) might hold people off.
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Because I can do what I want to an Android phone and for people who don't like doing that stuff they have Apple. That and Windows phones were last to the party so it is kinda hard to carve out a spot when Apple and Android have been so well established.
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Originally Posted by DrHairyPants View Post

I can imagine people having paid a fair amount on apps for their current platform. Having to re-purchase the apps (if they're available on WP to begin with) might hold people off.
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Because I can do what I want to an Android phone and for people who don't like doing that stuff they have Apple. That and Windows phones were last to the party so it is kinda hard to carve out a spot when Apple and Android have been so well established.

Both spot on points. Although I can be honest, the only apps I've purchased on my Windows Phone are games. All the other apps are free, or included in the OS like MS Office.
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It's too soon to jump in conclusions

Windows Phone will gain momentum this year,and by 2015 it will be the seconf dominiant platform surpassing Apple.
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