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i have a windows phone and i kind of regret it. i wished mine had skype and other apps like the what i drew thing. i feel like an outcast in my social group

It has Skype and it has Draw Something alternative, it's called Duudle.
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i have a windows phone and i kind of regret it. i wished mine had skype and other apps like the what i drew thing. i feel like an outcast in my social group

I'm actually happy I don't have that draw game. I'll see 4 or 5 of my friends take out their phones and start playing that game with each other when we are all in the same room and could actually do something social.

I much rather going out and actually doing things, going bowling, playing pool, bike rides, the beach, random road trips. Even board games are dying off.
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Actually, if you pull out a Cyan version of Lumia, random people WILL ask you about it, yesterday 5 people did so.
Also:
More Lumia 900 converts coming from Apple, Android, says poll
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57415177-93/more-lumia-900-converts-coming-from-apple-android-says-poll/

Actually in my last class someone asked if another classmate's phone is an Android and asked him to open the Market. I looked and said to her it's a Windows Phone 7, (HTC Titan) and she admitted she doesn't know it yet. The owner of the Titan though previously used an Android device, so there's your consolation.

Anyway, I've handled the Lumia for an extensive period and admittedly the hardware is good. Design is sexy, even. But still not buying the WP7 appeal besides the UI.

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And here is where we differ. I don't want a PC in my pocket. I want a phone and mobile device. I don't want to have to sit down to use my phone. I want it to be fast and efficient. My iPhone was nice but it was more of an iPod that can run apps with a phone attached than a phone with an iPod and App capabilities. Windows Phone for me is the opposite. I have a phone that can do some other things I use like edit Office documents, Email, and social media but it's first and foremost a phone/messaging device. I like that.

And here is where we differ as well. I love power and control over any device I want, and only Android does that. I can make it as easy as WP7 and iOS when glancing for information, or as robust as a Windows machine by making use of its file management and low-level system editing. tongue.gif

Microsoft immensely dropped the ball by trying to compete with iOS and Android in its "Smoked by Windows Phone" challenges and targeting the wrong demographic; it shouldn't go against established users of the Apple ecosystem, nor try to persuade power users invested in the Android platform. What it should have done in the beginning is to heavily market its supposed advantages of social media integration and ease of use to prospective smartphone buyers and ex-dumbphone users. That's MS' best chance of carving a niche for itself.


 

You need "POWER & CONTROL" over a throw away phone..?  (<--- lol)

 

 

Phones are not games, or toys... yet you seem to treat your phone like it's the center of a sub-culture that's happens to be your hobbie. Understand, there are people who don't gimmick around with their phones, but actually use them and conduct business with them. To whom phones are not toys, not a game and not a status symbol.. they just have to work (out of the box). 

 

 

 

JJ, you treat a phone as a dark secret toy, in which u can wield & show the others how finicky & different you are....       for what? (Why do you need to gimmick around with a freshly bought phone, before it unleashes it's power?)

 

Basically, all your saying is you like Android, because it gives you something to do, something to focus on because you don't own anything else worthwhile to invest you time in...     

 

 

 

post #105 of 365
I may be a bit behind, but did Windows launch a better OS than they had a couple years ago? My first smart phone was an HTC Touch Pro 2. Amazing phone, slide keyboard and the screen tilted up which was a great feature. The draw back was the difficulty of use and how slow it got. For every single app you open, even if its just text messaging or gallery, you have to go into a menu and hit "close" otherwise it runs forever, regardless if the phone is shut off or battery pulled out. It starts back up the second the phone turns back on. (Or so this is what they told me at the stand. Stupid right?)

Low and behold I ended up with a non-smart phone, the LG Rumor touch, which ended up lasting a couple months. I got a loaner phone which was another phone running Windows (like the HTC Touch Pro 2) and that was as equally disappointing as the HTC. I ended up getting my Rumor Touch back happily, but that didn't last either. I've since had an HTC Evo Shift (Android) and the OS works perfectly fine. I've had a few hardware malfunctions (touch screen stops responding and another time the touch screen would act as if it were being touched whether the phone was in my hand or on the table). Needless to say, in my opinion, if Windows has a better OS for phones now, their problem is that they had one before that was completely horrible. And if its the same one, then the reason no one likes it is because its completely horrible tongue.gif

...unless you like slow phones.... or having to go out of your way to keep your phone in good shape... But again, all this information is from personal experience through phones i've had.
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It's too soon to jump in conclusions
Windows Phone will gain momentum this year,and by 2015 it will be the seconf dominiant platform surpassing Apple.

This.


Won't happen.
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That is such a cop-out.
And here is where we differ. I don't want a PC in my pocket. I want a phone and mobile device. I don't want to have to sit down to use my phone. I want it to be fast and efficient. My iPhone was nice but it was more of an iPod that can run apps with a phone attached than a phone with an iPod and App capabilities. Windows Phone for me is the opposite. I have a phone that can do some other things I use like edit Office documents, Email, and social media but it's first and foremost a phone/messaging device. I like that.

In all honesty, a smart phone is probably not for you. Why would you want to pay the extra data fees if you only plan to send a few messages, make some phone calls, and edit documents?
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I may be a bit behind, but did Windows launch a better OS than they had a couple years ago? My first smart phone was an HTC Touch Pro 2. Amazing phone, slide keyboard and the screen tilted up which was a great feature. The draw back was the difficulty of use and how slow it got. For every single app you open, even if its just text messaging or gallery, you have to go into a menu and hit "close" otherwise it runs forever, regardless if the phone is shut off or battery pulled out. It starts back up the second the phone turns back on. (Or so this is what they told me at the stand. Stupid right?)
Low and behold I ended up with a non-smart phone, the LG Rumor touch, which ended up lasting a couple months. I got a loaner phone which was another phone running Windows (like the HTC Touch Pro 2) and that was as equally disappointing as the HTC. I ended up getting my Rumor Touch back happily, but that didn't last either. I've since had an HTC Evo Shift (Android) and the OS works perfectly fine. I've had a few hardware malfunctions (touch screen stops responding and another time the touch screen would act as if it were being touched whether the phone was in my hand or on the table). Needless to say, in my opinion, if Windows has a better OS for phones now, their problem is that they had one before that was completely horrible. And if its the same one, then the reason no one likes it is because its completely horrible tongue.gif
...unless you like slow phones.... or having to go out of your way to keep your phone in good shape... But again, all this information is from personal experience through phones i've had.

You used Windows Mobile. This is a completely new platform, hence no old apps and it's called Windows Phone. If you bothered to read any WP reviews, then you would have realized that the bolded statement is not true and it's smoother than any other platform out there.

Welcome to 2 years ago.
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A phone is only as good as it's carrier.


As it stands, Sprint has been selling 4G phones for 18 month but still doesn't offer/have 4g... same with other carriers.


Verizon is the ONLY carrier in US with a 4G network.. so when they carry the new Wondow Phone you will see people buy them. There is no point in buying a 4g phone when the carrier doesn't support it. (Ie: AT


ATT has LTE....


Do you travel the Country, or just watch their commercials?


I don't travel the country or watch their commercials. I know they only have like 50 markets with coverage, but they HAVE a 4G network. Your point is invalid doh.gif They DO support it. Just not very well.
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I wonder if M$ has learned yet that marketing a phone with 'Windows' in it just dosent ring a bell with the average consumer.
When they think 'Windows' they think of a computer, they dont want something like a computer; they want whats standardized as a phone these days. Namely a fruit and a robot
Mass popularity is harsh sometimes.....

Zune failed, it wasn't Windows
KIN failed, it wasn't Windows
MSN Direct Smart Watch
Windows Live OneCare
Soapbox
Microsoft Wireless Base Station
Microsoft Encarta

etc. etc.

Just because Xbox succeeded without using word Windows, doesn't mean your statement is true.
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While this was true in the past, MS and Nokia gave just about every store a Lumia 900 to play with. Every rep in the 4-5 stores I visited lauded the phone. So while I think you are right before the Lumia 900 now more reps like the platform. I hope to see some shift in momentum for Windows Phone 7.

True but it's for ATT only, other carrier reps are very biased
Zune didn't fail. Wasn't a resounding success, but MS made money off it and it certainly put a bigger dent in iPod sales than anything else in the segment did. I know many, many people with Zunes.
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I may be a bit behind, but did Windows launch a better OS than they had a couple years ago? My first smart phone was an HTC Touch Pro 2. Amazing phone, slide keyboard and the screen tilted up which was a great feature. The draw back was the difficulty of use and how slow it got. For every single app you open, even if its just text messaging or gallery, you have to go into a menu and hit "close" otherwise it runs forever, regardless if the phone is shut off or battery pulled out. It starts back up the second the phone turns back on. (Or so this is what they told me at the stand. Stupid right?)

Low and behold I ended up with a non-smart phone, the LG Rumor touch, which ended up lasting a couple months. I got a loaner phone which was another phone running Windows (like the HTC Touch Pro 2) and that was as equally disappointing as the HTC. I ended up getting my Rumor Touch back happily, but that didn't last either. I've since had an HTC Evo Shift (Android) and the OS works perfectly fine. I've had a few hardware malfunctions (touch screen stops responding and another time the touch screen would act as if it were being touched whether the phone was in my hand or on the table). Needless to say, in my opinion, if Windows has a better OS for phones now, their problem is that they had one before that was completely horrible. And if its the same one, then the reason no one likes it is because its completely horrible tongue.gif

...unless you like slow phones.... or having to go out of your way to keep your phone in good shape... But again, all this information is from personal experience through phones i've had.

You used Windows Mobile, MS's previous smartphone OS. That was sucking, so they threw it to the wind and built WP7 from the ground up.
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You used Windows Mobile. This is a completely new platform, hence no old apps and it's called Windows Phone. If you bothered to read any WP reviews, then you would have realized that the bolded statement is not true and it's smoother than any other platform out there.
Welcome to 2 years ago.

no need to be rude about it. But thank you for informing me, rude or not -_-
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