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What exactly contains windows in Windows Phone ? That is their first conceptual mistake. You might say they are going with the name for the future but that is still too far away. Smartphones are still gadgets and are still running on a different architecture compared to desktop OSes. Apple came up with a different name for their mobile OS (and even then their desktop OS designation doesn't imply a conceptual formula like Windows does), and so did Google.

Also, we are in an economic downturn, people will go with what they know works. Apple works and is hip, Google may have its problems but it sure is hip. What does Microsoft do ? Name their mobile OS the same as their desktop OS. Good luck with the marketing. Just because Windows 7 is very popular, that doesn't make it a good idea to try and capitalize on that. It's still a different platform and people want something that sounds fresh.

Edit: Oh, and personally, I think the interface is ugly, the same as Metro. Those huge simple color tiles in a transparency based age is going backwards. Can't you have a nice wallpaper and transparency based icons just like in the desktop Windows ? That would look nice.
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Wait, is that for real? Does Microsoft charge a higher percentage of the profit whenever an app sells or something or possibly a larger initial fee? Android is 25, Apple I believe is in the hundred range...if it's more than that then I don't see WP succeeding, gotta keep the developers happy
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Wait, is that for real? Does Microsoft charge a higher percentage of the profit whenever an app sells or something or possibly a larger initial fee? Android is 25, Apple I believe is in the hundred range...if it's more than that then I don't see WP succeeding, gotta keep the developers happy

I know being a Windows Phone Developer is $99 a year, I have yet to upload an app to the marketplace so I'm not sure how that works. I just use my developer's license to be able to run any piece of code I want on my phone.

There are tons of applications available in this way, only downside is you need to use a computer to transfer the app to your phone.
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How about because its using Internet Explorer? Even with hardware acceleration and HTML 5 tacked on its still pretty much running IE7, so not only is it the slowest mobile web browser on the market, its also the least standards compliant.

Every time I think about going to WP7 I remember IE and think that maybe it would be alright if Opera or Firefox would release their mobile browsers on WP7, but then I realize they can't because its a restricted platform and Microsoft won't let them. At that point I'm running hard in the opposite direction.


Windows Phone is great in the sense that feature phones are great, only feature phones have weeks of battery life while WP7 is < 1 day.
    
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I would consider changing to Windows Phone but VZW doesn't have crap for WinMo phones right now....
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How about because its using Internet Explorer? Even with hardware acceleration and HTML 5 tacked on its still pretty much running IE7, so not only is it the slowest mobile web browser on the market, its also the least standards compliant.

Every time I think about going to WP7 I remember IE and think that maybe it would be alright if Opera or Firefox would release their mobile browsers on WP7, but then I realize they can't because its a restricted platform and Microsoft won't let them. At that point I'm running hard in the opposite direction.


Windows Phone is great in the sense that feature phones are great, only feature phones have weeks of battery life while WP7 is < 1 day.

Well they've upgrade to Mobile IE9 since the 7.5 Mango update and there are alternatives as well like SurfCube which is another amazing browser.
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I can imagine people having paid a fair amount on apps for their current platform. Having to re-purchase the apps (if they're available on WP to begin with) might hold people off.

This is the reason for me. I am too invested in Google's infrastructure (docs, gmail, sync, play, chrome, etc.) to switch over. That'd be like throwing everything built up over the last 3 years into the trash and starting over. That is not really something that I want to do.
     
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why? because it sucks. no other reason.

The real reason is ignorance as shown by your post.

For me, the hardest thing about switching was leaving all the apps I purchased on iOS devices. I knew it was coming even when I was shelling out for them at the time but that is Apple's (and all the other platforms') goal, to get you dependent on their services. However, I made the decision to switch and I love it. The phone does so much stock that the other OSs need apps to do.

People can say all they want about how much it sucks or whatever but that is just untrue. The only overarching reason NOT to go to Windows Phone 7 is familiarity and investment (time, setup, and money). My father won't do it until there are Windows tablets so he has the same interface across both devices (he has a Transformer and Atrix currently). My wife likes her apps on which she has become dependent. But to say the platform itself is bad is ridiculous.
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why? because it sucks. no other reason.

The real reason is ignorance as shown by your post.

For me, the hardest thing about switching was leaving all the apps I purchased on iOS devices. I knew it was coming even when I was shelling out for them at the time but that is Apple's (and all the other platforms') goal, to get you dependent on their services. However, I made the decision to switch and I love it. The phone does so much stock that the other OSs need apps to do.

People can say all they want about how much it sucks or whatever but that is just untrue. The only overarching reason NOT to go to Windows Phone 7 is familiarity and investment (time, setup, and money). My father won't do it until there are Windows tablets so he has the same interface across both devices (he has a Transformer and Atrix currently). My wife likes her apps on which she has become dependent. But to say the platform itself is bad is ridiculous.

That's probably one of the biggest things to take away from your post.

The app market may be young and people are heavily dependent on apps on the other platforms and may not know what is available on the WP7 platform.

The argument about being reliant on a service such as Google Docs is not the best argument either. Google pushes their Google Docs, Microsoft pushes Skydrive and Office 365.


I found the switch amazingly easy. Over the years I have kept all my contacts in Hotmail or Gmail and WP7 does a great job of syncing contacts and calendars from both services as well as other mail providers.

I do find myself missing Chrome's sync that use across all my computer, but I find that my mobile browsing habits are very different then my browsing habits on the computer and most of my bookmarks I just don't need. This is of course just my opinion on the matter.
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Marketing and target audience. Android based phones are great phones but you don't see people lining up outside of stores for them.

Apple has taken up a significant amount of the market, android the other. Windows phones are new and the market is at a point where its hard to pierce.
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