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- Koolance RP-452X2 Dual 5.25" Reservoir + (dual ?) MCP655 or Koolance RP-401X2 Reservoir (though single bay) + (dual ?) MCP35X

i have one, wanna buy? lol, jk you live very far away
now to the comment, i wouldnt advise this, i have one and didnt use it, res volume is to low, so to fill a large loop, it would take years, also air bleeding is next to impossibru
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Originally Posted by douglatins View Post

- Koolance RP-452X2 Dual 5.25" Reservoir + (dual ?) MCP655 or Koolance RP-401X2 Reservoir (though single bay) + (dual ?) MCP35X
i have one, wanna buy? lol, jk you live very far away
now to the comment, i wouldnt advise this, i have one and didnt use it, res volume is to low, so to fill a large loop, it would take years, also air bleeding is next to impossibru

Koolance just came out with a 2nd revision and I'm seriously giving it some thought. Under the assumption that they fixed all the flaws. They include the 180 degree adapter for serial loopage this time as well.
    
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- Koolance RP-452X2 Dual 5.25" Reservoir + (dual ?) MCP655 or Koolance RP-401X2 Reservoir (though single bay) + (dual ?) MCP35X
i have one, wanna buy? lol, jk you live very far away
now to the comment, i wouldnt advise this, i have one and didnt use it, res volume is to low, so to fill a large loop, it would take years, also air bleeding is next to impossibru

Koolance just came out with a 2nd revision and I'm seriously giving it some thought. Under the assumption that they fixed all the flaws. They include the 180 degree adapter for serial loopage this time as well.

I really doubt it, also people are concerned that it may trap air bubbles in the pump rotor since they are mounted facing down. a total nogo in pump specs.

Get a dual pump top and a bay res, separate.
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I really doubt it, also people are concerned that it may trap air bubbles in the pump rotor since they are mounted facing down. a total nogo in pump specs.
Get a dual pump top and a bay res, separate.

lol if you are going to advocate for less air bubbles, then you should push cyclinder reservoirs. I started out using bay res and I hated waiting the extra time to work it self out. Even after tipping the case and slapping the tubes with my screwdriver handle haha
    
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Originally Posted by ceteris View Post

700D? Oh then just get an external rad box/case and you can fit 3 of those UT60's. I think there should be a couple of watercooling holes above the 140mm rear fan exhaust.
I know how you feel about the 700D. If you haven't noticed from my rig specs, I'm currently using an 800D and I love it. Even though I consider myself a seasoned watercooling veteran, I wanted to own one of these beauties. But at best it's only good for bare entry level watercooling w/o heavy modding. But I don't want touch it all and keep it in the shape I bought it in. Currently I am using it for pure air cooling, despite having less than adequate airflow for higher end hardware. But, when I have my STH10 all populated with the rads and parts, I'll be transferring my hardware while trying to keep a < 1 day transition for little downtime on my rig. Not sure what I'm going to do with my 800D after that worriedsmiley.gif

Have all rads external to the case then ? Hhhmmm I don't know...
As you said, I really like the looks on the 700/800D (and your rig was the first thing I checked when I saw your profile, wanted to see how you handled that case biggrin.gif)
I'd like to keep it "as-is" as much as possible, without anything external to it.
I'm really considering ditching the UT60 because I don't want to have 3 fans outside the case as bakageta suggested.

As for your 800D, you can make another user happy and sell it for cheap, like how I got mine wheee.gif
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Originally Posted by douglatins View Post

- Koolance RP-452X2 Dual 5.25" Reservoir + (dual ?) MCP655 or Koolance RP-401X2 Reservoir (though single bay) + (dual ?) MCP35X
i have one, wanna buy? lol, jk you live very far away
now to the comment, i wouldnt advise this, i have one and didnt use it, res volume is to low, so to fill a large loop, it would take years, also air bleeding is next to impossibru

HA ! I see what you did there thumbsupsmiley.png
Still, would you recommend dual pumps or is one enough ?
According to this thread, single pump should be ok. I just need a confirmation smile.gif
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Originally Posted by ceteris View Post

Koolance just came out with a 2nd revision and I'm seriously giving it some thought. Under the assumption that they fixed all the flaws. They include the 180 degree adapter for serial loopage this time as well.

This is indeed the reason I want one now. Rev 1.2 supposedly fixed the bleeding issue with a bleeding kit and Rev 1.3 has some more changes. Now, Rev 2.0 doesn't require a bleeding kit anymore.

However, the new bleeding mechanism only applies to the RP-452X2 (dual bay, for D5 pumps) and RP-401X2 (single bay, for DDC pumps) and as stated in this post, they won't be updating the dual bay version for DDC pumps (RP-402X2).
That's a shame since it was the one I wanted initially. I'll have to settle for the single bay DDC model or go dual bay D5.

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I really doubt it, also people are concerned that it may trap air bubbles in the pump rotor since they are mounted facing down. a total nogo in pump specs.
Get a dual pump top and a bay res, separate.

ah I didn't know about that. The reason I wanted a bayres/pump combo is that it would save some space inside the case, plus being able to check water levels just by looking at your tower is nice.
So, dual pump + top, connected to a separate bay reservoir ? Do you have any particular models in mind ? I haven't really planned for that yet :/
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lol if you are going to advocate for less air bubbles, then you should push cyclinder reservoirs. I started out using bay res and I hated waiting the extra time to work it self out. Even after tipping the case and slapping the tubes with my screwdriver handle haha

I'm not a big fan of cylinder reservoirs. I quite don't like the look of it, it doesn't fit nicely with the rest IMO but that's just personal taste.
Edited by Gauvi - 4/18/12 at 11:40am
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About the bay res, there arent many options. I would advice EK or alphacool options. Frozenqp are expensive, but look great
Acetal is proffered to acrylic also.
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I used a RP452X2 v1.3 in a 800D with a very similar rad setup to what your planning. I had 360 at the top, 140 at the rear (ports towards bottom), 240 on the bottom. Bleeding time from start to full with just micro bubbles was around 3-4 hrs. There was alot of tipping/inverting of the case to get all the air out, but I put that down to the radiator placement not a fault with the reservoir. Especially the rear radiator placement with the ports at the bottom, this rad was difficult to bleed. Having dual pumps also help when you need that extra flow to bleed complex systems and you can turn them both down for normal usage.

I now have a RP452X2 v2.0 (because I like the look of it more) in a case labs case, running 4 x 360 rads. Last time I filled the system I was completely bubble free within 1-2 hrs. These Koolance res/pump combos are very capable. In the 800D or 700D having the pumps/res in one will also free up alot of space.
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I used a RP452X2 v1.3 in a 800D with a very similar rad setup to what your planning. I had 360 at the top, 140 at the rear (ports towards bottom), 240 on the bottom. Bleeding time from start to full with just micro bubbles was around 3-4 hrs. There was alot of tipping/inverting of the case to get all the air out, but I put that down to the radiator placement not a fault with the reservoir. Especially the rear radiator placement with the ports at the bottom, this rad was difficult to bleed. Having dual pumps also help when you need that extra flow to bleed complex systems and you can turn them both down for normal usage.
I now have a RP452X2 v2.0 (because I like the look of it more) in a case labs case, running 4 x 360 rads. Last time I filled the system I was completely bubble free within 1-2 hrs. These Koolance res/pump combos are very capable. In the 800D or 700D having the pumps/res in one will also free up alot of space.

That's great! Perhaps I'll pick one up myself to play around with. I like cylinders but they can be a PITA, with the pump, to find placement if you are using 3/4" OD tubing.

I got the overall impression that alot of people on OCN are very dismissive of Koolance. Not sure why, perhaps of some mishaps several years back? I think they are ok. I started W/C'ing with their CPU 360 and GTX 480 blocks and they've lasted for the past 2 years.
    
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I used a RP452X2 v1.3 in a 800D with a very similar rad setup to what your planning. I had 360 at the top, 140 at the rear (ports towards bottom), 240 on the bottom. Bleeding time from start to full with just micro bubbles was around 3-4 hrs. There was alot of tipping/inverting of the case to get all the air out, but I put that down to the radiator placement not a fault with the reservoir. Especially the rear radiator placement with the ports at the bottom, this rad was difficult to bleed. Having dual pumps also help when you need that extra flow to bleed complex systems and you can turn them both down for normal usage.
I now have a RP452X2 v2.0 (because I like the look of it more) in a case labs case, running 4 x 360 rads. Last time I filled the system I was completely bubble free within 1-2 hrs. These Koolance res/pump combos are very capable. In the 800D or 700D having the pumps/res in one will also free up alot of space.

U need to save space in a caselabs?
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U need to save space in a caselabs?

Haha yeah you wouldn't think so, but a M10 fills up pretty quick with 4 x 360 rads and 33 fans.
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