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Thinner rads with push/pull will absolutely hold their own, and depending on the gap between the 2 radiators with just push, they may actually out-perform the thicker rad. See here, from Martin's Liquid Lab:
xspc-rxvsrs-thermals.png?w=614
You can see the RS360 P/P outperforms the RX360 P by more than the RX360 P outperforms the RS360 P. If the performance gap is pretty similar with your two radiators, I'd expect the same to hold true.

Thanks ! Exactly what I was looking for ! I can't believe I skimmed over that graph doh.gif
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Hmm... UT60 will fit in a 700D with push fine because a RX is only a few mm thinner than a UT60. Look at my rig for what it will look like. There's ample room. As for modding, it's a requirement, mandatory. Skip the 360 and go straight to a 480. It's easy as cake man, it really is. I'd hardly call it a mod even, it's that easy.

Yes, UT60 in push only will be fine. Push/pull however is a very close call and the top ATX12V plug pretty much kills any chance of making it happen, particularly if the cables come from the top hole.
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If you look closely, the P/P RS360 barely performs better than a UT60 in push. The difference is that you have twice the amount of fans. Thus if you used expensive fans like the AP15, you're looking at 60 bucks more in just fans at 20 a piece. That's more than the difference in rad price. I think Martin used the Titans which run 400rpm higher for the same wattage. Then there's the added noise of running two times the fannage,
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If you look closely, the P/P RS360 barely performs better than a UT60 in push. The difference is that you have twice the amount of fans. Thus if you used expensive fans like the AP15, you're looking at 60 bucks more in just fans at 20 a piece. That's more than the difference in rad price. I think Martin used the Titans which run 400rpm higher for the same wattage. Then there's the added noise of running two times the fannage,

It really comes down to the radiators he's comparing and of course the fan speeds, but since he mentioned the UT60 and the MCR320-XP, it's silly to compare to the RS360, I merely linked the chart to show the difference between push and push/pull with two similar radiators. The MCR320-XP is closer to the UT60 than the RS360 is to the RX360, and extrapolating the push/pull information, it stands to reason the MCR320-XP with push/pull will win out versus a UT60 in push. Obviously cost and noise are other factors to consider, but those hold different priorities for different people. Personally, my main requirement is performance:cost ratio, then noise a distant second. Others prefer flat-out performance, and plenty of people here value performance:noise ratio over all else.

If performance:cost ratio is also a concern, there are several fans that do quite well, like XSPC's fans that come in significantly cheaper than things like the Gentle Typhoons. You could certainly buy 3 more XSPC fans for the price difference in the MCR320-XP and the UT60. On the other side of things, plenty of people throw budget to the wind, and if you're looking for the most performance you can fit in a given space, the MCR320-XP wins here also. If performance:noise ratio is important though, the UT60 and some GTs may be the better choice, rather than the added sound from push/pull.
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