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post #11 of 16
This sounds more like a GPU driver issue rather than a CPU stability issue. Recommend you do a CLEAN install of your graphics drivers and try again. If you are OCing your GPU, go back to stock and see if you're still freezing.

Try this guide:
http://www.overclock.net/t/988215/how-to-properly-uninstall-ati-amd-software-drivers-for-graphics-cards
post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by Arimis5226 View Post

This sounds more like a GPU driver issue rather than a CPU stability issue. Recommend you do a CLEAN install of your graphics drivers and try again. If you are OCing your GPU, go back to stock and see if you're still freezing.
Try this guide:
http://www.overclock.net/t/988215/how-to-properly-uninstall-ati-amd-software-drivers-for-graphics-cards

i did have a problem before where my games would slow down really severely every hour or so. i thought maybe there was something wrong with the graphics card so i ran stock clocks but it still happened, then a motherboard bios update fixed that. the computer has only frozen the once since ive had this overclock which was on portal 2. its been completely fine the rest of the time. im not that concerned by it freezing up the once when i played portal 2. i'm more concerned about why my fps are worse when the cpu is overclocked. im pretty sure its not related to my graphics card. also im not keen on using those driver sweeper type programs as they've caused me a lot of trouble in the past. thanks though thumb.gif

Edit: Also I should add that I got a Blue screen when Portal 2 froze which said something about a clock interupt which it nearly always says when the blue screen is related to the CPU. I'll add this to my first post!
Edited by ET900 - 4/16/12 at 1:32pm
post #13 of 16
What are your BCLK settings for your OC? Something other than 100?

Edit: Also, maybe your OC is having some sort of impact on power? Have you looked into making sure your load is balanced on your PSU rails? Just pulling ideas out of my rear at this point in hopes that maybe I can help ya out. :/
Edited by Arimis5226 - 4/16/12 at 1:56pm
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What are your BCLK settings for your OC? Something other than 100?
Edit: Also, maybe your OC is having some sort of impact on power? Have you looked into making sure your load is balanced on your PSU rails? Just pulling ideas out of my rear at this point in hopes that maybe I can help ya out. :/

It's on 100. I have Spread Spectrum disabled to so it doesn't fluctuate much. I think I've done a good job with setting up the power lines so I don't think that's the cause here. Do you think the CPU may be throttling under load? It shouldn't be really considering the way I've set things in the BIOS. I have C1E enabled which is a must really, but I'm also pretty sure I have C3 & C6 states set to Auto. I guess maybe they could be causing a problem. I'll try disabling them tomorrow and see if it makes any difference! I appreciate the help btw thumb.gif
post #15 of 16
Only reason it should trottle is if it is hitting TJMAX. Have you tried running realtemp in the background to kinda monitor your CPU temps while gaming and such from time to time? I mean, you sound like you know what you're doing, which means it's not likely the problem. It almost sounds like the problem is in the motherboard/BIOS settings. Are there any options anywhere in your BIOS that you have changed from default that controls bus speed options? Like, a good example would be that I had a setting on the same motherboard you have that would allow me to choose whether I wanted USB3.0 enabled, but in doing so would throttle one of PCIE slots down to like 4x and disable a few other things depending on what option I selected. I'd also try turning the Cstate settings either on or off instead of auto. Maybe C1 and C3 ON, and C6 auto, or all on. I'm saying this of course assuming that you are using manual and not offset voltage. Once again, doubtful seeing as you sound like you know your way around a BIOS, just sorta running the gambit on things that I can think of that might explain what your experiencing.

Think of me as one of Dr. House's lackeys. Probably wrong, but at least I'm keeping the conversation interesting. biggrin.gif
post #16 of 16
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Originally Posted by Arimis5226 View Post

Only reason it should trottle is if it is hitting TJMAX. Have you tried running realtemp in the background to kinda monitor your CPU temps while gaming and such from time to time? I mean, you sound like you know what you're doing, which means it's not likely the problem. It almost sounds like the problem is in the motherboard/BIOS settings. Are there any options anywhere in your BIOS that you have changed from default that controls bus speed options? Like, a good example would be that I had a setting on the same motherboard you have that would allow me to choose whether I wanted USB3.0 enabled, but in doing so would throttle one of PCIE slots down to like 4x and disable a few other things depending on what option I selected. I'd also try turning the Cstate settings either on or off instead of auto. Maybe C1 and C3 ON, and C6 auto, or all on. I'm saying this of course assuming that you are using manual and not offset voltage. Once again, doubtful seeing as you sound like you know your way around a BIOS, just sorta running the gambit on things that I can think of that might explain what your experiencing.
Think of me as one of Dr. House's lackeys. Probably wrong, but at least I'm keeping the conversation interesting. biggrin.gif

Well I just ran a bunch of benchmarks with Stock CPU settings, 4.5Ghz (C1E Enabled, C3 & C6 Auto) and 4.5Ghz (C1E Enabled, C3 & C6 Disabled). Turns out that the 4.5Ghz overclock with C1E enabled and with C3 & C6 on auto gave the best results! There wasn't much between the 2 versions of the 4.5Ghz overclocks to be honest apart from on the first section of the S.T.A.L.K.E.R: COP benchmark - I put that down to an Anomaly though! Haha like what I did there!? tongue.gif The differences in the other tests were pretty insignificant though, the sort of variables you would expect from running the same benchmark more than once on the same machine. Still, it certainy appears that C3 & C6 being on Auto didn't hurt performance at all which is good to know smile.gif

My temps are great so that shouldn't be an issue here. The max CPU temp I've hit with prime95 is 58c. That's the highest CPU temp I ever had I think. GPU barely makes it past 70c in any situation. Motherboard stays nice n cool to. I use the Motherboard software to check CPU and Motherboard temps by the way.

That's interesting. I don't think I've changed anything that should affect that but I might mess with some settings and see if anything is reducing the bandwidth of the PCI-E slots. I have heard of similar situations before come to think of it! I initially overclock with static voltage and then switch to offset as I do like my CPU to clock down to save on power, wear and heat. That's why I keep C1E enabled smile.gif

I had an ASRock Motherboard before this one which I had to get a refund on because the BIOS was bugged and couldn't get my CPU past 4.1Ghz. Thing is though, my games played much nicer when I had that board! Maybe my CPU is fine but something about my settings when I'm running it at 4.5Ghz is affecting the PCI-E slot. It's weird though because the benchmarks show that I get better results with the overclock. AAAAAAHHH :/

Edit: Just a little update - I've looked through the BIOS and the only differences in settings are the C states which I already mentioned, and other CPU settings which I've obviously needed to change to allow the 4.5Ghz overclock and should in no way be causing any throttling or messing with the PCI-E slots. Strange little issue ay! I'm gonna do some heavy experimenting tonight playing Skyrim and BF3 with the CPU at stock and also overclocked to 4.5Ghz. The real difference is what matters here. Screw the benchmarks! I need to do this testing for my own sanity to, to make sure this problem is real! As I think I may be losing my mind over this lol...

Edit: OK! I have come to the conclusion that I must've lost my mind a little and the overclock isn't making framerates worse! I decided that yesterday after a quick trial and should've tested a bit more to see really! Just played BF3 a for a good couple hours on each clock speed on 2 of the most troublesome maps and honestly couldn't tell any difference. So sorry for that bit of misinformation there lol! :/ However! I know for sure that performance is worse than on my ASRock board! Honest! A BIOS update help fixed some stuttering issues I had before with this board so while it's possible there are a couple things I could try changing in the BIOS - I think it's probably just something that can hopefully be ironed out with another BIOS update from Asus. I am hopeful seeing as the last BIOS update fixed that horrible stuttering issue.

Thanks for all the help people thumb.gif
Edited by ET900 - 4/17/12 at 12:34pm
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