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Fernando: I've been testing RAPID this past week with my 840 Pro and have noticed that RAPID is working better with the Win8.1 MSAHCI driver, unlike when using the RST 12.8.x driver it hinders its performance a little bit.

I was wondering if your seeing similar results.
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Fernando: I've been testing RAPID this past week with my 840 Pro and have noticed that RAPID is working better with the Win8.1 MSAHCI driver, unlike when using the RST 12.8.x driver it hinders its performance a little bit.
I was wondering if your seeing similar results.
You can see my RAPID MODE results with different Intel AHCI drivers within this post: http://www.win-raid.com/t2f23-Intel-R-RST-RSTe-Drivers-actual-v-v-WHQL.html#msg35.
Although I haven't yet tried to run the generic MS AHCI driver STORAHCI.SYS, I can hardly believe, that the results will be better than those I got with the Intel RST(e) driver v12.8.6.1000.

EDIT: I just have done the AS_SSD benchmark test running the MS AHCI driver in RAPID Mode. All RAPID mode resuts (except the 4K Read ones) are awesome, but I got by far the best performance with the Intel RST(e) driver v12.8.6.1000.
Edited by Fernando 1 - 12/15/13 at 2:52am
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what are the benefits of Rapid setup on an SSD versus AHCI SSD (without rapid)? I thought rapid is for small mSata SSD boosting the mechanical drives (when no big SSD is used as primary).

Asking out of curiosity, running UEFI + 2x SSD in raid0 now. I understand that I would need to re-partition the volume to enable Rapid, not sure how one goes about it manually, as full re-install from scratch is out of question for me.
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AFAIK you can't use RAPID in RAID0 yet at least. There's a thread in the SSD forum on it's benefit and they're really not there for real-world.
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what are the benefits of Rapid setup on an SSD versus AHCI SSD (without rapid)?
Look here: http://www.win-raid.com/t2f23-Intel-R-RST-RSTe-Drivers-actual-v-v-WHQL.html#msg35
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Asking out of curiosity, running UEFI + 2x SSD in raid0 now. I understand that I would need to re-partition the volume to enable Rapid, not sure how one goes about it manually, as full re-install from scratch is out of question for me.
Here you can see how I did it: http://www.win-raid.com/t2f23-Intel-R-RST-RSTe-Drivers-actual-v-v-WHQL-11.html#msg3177
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AFAIK you can't use RAPID in RAID0 yet at least. There's a thread in the SSD forum on it's benefit and they're really not there for real-world.
yeah, that's what I realize, it works for single-SSD volumes. ... but if benefits of RAPID setup outweigh the RAID0 benefits than I am considering to make a switch at some point.
I can't see pics, probably need to be logged on, but from text I can see that RAPID+AHCI results blasted RAID0 benchmarks results to ashes smile.gif
Now the question is ... does this benefit show in daily use or only in synthetic benchmarks? Also, I have a pair of Mushkin SSDs, so can't use Samsung Magician tool for making the RAPID setup, how one goes about it manually? Anyways, does it mean that one full SSD must be dedicated to caching purpose while other is the only available to OS?
Edited by feniks - 12/16/13 at 4:41pm
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RAPID is just a caching method provided by a manufacturer that is provided by some 3rd parties already (fancycache). Fancycache works with RAID0 and allows you to define the amount of RAM while RAPID doesn't work with RAID0 and is limited to 1GB or 25% (which ever is larger).

I wouldn't consider a Samsung SSD because of RAPID, I'd buy the EVO because of it's fast 4K QD1 read speeds out of the box and have been very close to getting 2 so I can RAID0 them.

I know you're not one of "these people" but if you're amazed by benches then use Fancycache (it's got a different name today but I don't use it) on your RAID0 setup and marvel at the numbers biggrin.gif
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RAPID is just a caching method provided by a manufacturer that is provided by some 3rd parties already (fancycache). Fancycache works with RAID0 and allows you to define the amount of RAM while RAPID doesn't work with RAID0 and is limited to 1GB or 25% (which ever is larger).

I wouldn't consider a Samsung SSD because of RAPID, I'd buy the EVO because of it's fast 4K QD1 read speeds out of the box and have been very close to getting 2 so I can RAID0 them.

I know you're not one of "these people" but if you're amazed by benches then use Fancycache (it's got a different name today but I don't use it) on your RAID0 setup and marvel at the numbers biggrin.gif

nah, hehe, I'm not really one of those people wink.gif
I enjoy my raid0 and really need it for joined space of 2 SSDs. not in the market to upgrade yet, and won't be for some time smile.gif

just considering options, maybe one day will give a shot to FancyCache thingy.
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Now the question is ... does this benefit show in daily use or only in synthetic benchmarks?
Users probably will benefit from the RAPID Mode caching method, but not in the dimension of the benchmark results.
By the way: This statement is valid for a RAID0 system as well. Doubling the benchmark results (except 4K Read) by creating a RAID0 does not mean doubling the performance in real life.
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Also, I have a pair of Mushkin SSDs, so can't use Samsung Magician tool for making the RAPID setup, how one goes about it manually?
The RAPID Mode feature is not even available for all Samsung SSDs.
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Anyways, does it mean that one full SSD must be dedicated to caching purpose while other is the only available to OS?
No, the RAPID Mode uses just a part of the RAM for caching. You can use the other SSD for whatever you want (data storage or another OS).
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