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Background: My friend is able to get a 2700K on the cheap (cheaper than a 2500K from MicroCenter), so he wants to upgrade. He wants to build a rig that can run this generation's games on max, and the next gen's games on higher settings. He's coming from a AM2+/Phenom II/4830 rig, so nothing will be re-used.

He has some parts picked out, but wants to know that it's the best he can do for the price. He doesn't have a set budget, so if slightly more/less expensive is justifiable, he'll definitely consider it. Still, cheaper is better; he's not an enthusiast. rolleyes.gif Here's what he has so far:
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Carbide Series 400R: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811139008
Sapphire 6870: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814102948
Cooler Master Silent Pro M600: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817171036
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157271
G.Skill Ripjaw 2x4GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820231468
Storage: He won't need to worry about storage. He has an SSD and plenty of HDDs to work with.
OS: No need, since we get Windows 7 as students.

Something to note:
The only reason why he's upgrading is because he can get a 2700K for cheap, so the build MUST revolve around that. Waiting for Ivy won't work for him.


So, what do you guys think?
Edited by onoz - 4/16/12 at 12:24pm
 
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1. 6870 won't run this generations games on max.
2. a Single 6870 won't use 600W, go for a decent 450W or 500W
3. Gaming computers don't need 8GB of memory as games hardly use much memory, I'd stick with 4GB for now unless they really need it if you're looking to cut budget.
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x2 on the card. you need to be looking at the latest generation bruisers from amd/nvidia if the phrase future proof holds any weight with your friend.
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Originally Posted by appleg33k85 View Post

1. 6870 won't run this generations games on max.
2. a Single 6870 won't use 600W, go for a decent 450W or 500W
3. Gaming computers don't need 8GB of memory as games hardly use much memory, I'd stick with 4GB for now unless they really need it if you're looking to cut budget.

Everything he said, minus saying to not get 8GB, thats just ignorant. Get 8GB.
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for the case your going to have a problem with usb 3.0 front panel as asrock z68 gen 3 has no usb3.0 header, you can get zalman case z9 ~ $50

for SB getting 2133 ram will not even boost the over-all performance, the 1600 speed is enough ~ gskill 1600 8gb ~ $50

for power supply the ocz modxstream pro 600W modular 80+ ~ $50
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Future proofing on a budget does not exist.

The 2700K is an excellent processor, but it's last year's news as it only has PCIe 2.0. With an HD 6870 of course that does not matter, but that is not the point. If you want a future proof solid foundation, you should be looking at the socket 2011 platform and the Core i7 3820, that will alow you to upgrade the GPU in a year or two (I underlined this on purpose, people many times think about the immediate future and quote current GPUs and say they don't max out PCIe 2.0) and not worry about if PCIe 2.0 x16 is going to be bottlenecking the new card.

And yes, you should go with 8 GB of RAM. RAM is cheap, you're not going to make any meaningful savings on putting 4 GB less, and anybody suggesting 4 GB is enough doesn't know what he is talking about. Multi-tasking alone with more than 4 GB makes a big difference. Games are also starting to take advantage of more than 4 GB of RAM. BF3 for example benefits from 6 GB of RAM.

Also, you can do better than that PSU for that money. Buy a Seasonic PSU with better efficiency. 80 Plus Gold.
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That seems like a fairly nice computer.

As for the case:

Other suggestions might be:
- Fractal Design R3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352013
I use this one, it's epic
- Coolermaster CM690II advanced http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216
- Lian Li Lancool http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112239

As for the PSU:
- Corsair TX 650 V2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020
It's abit cheaper, delivers more power, but it is not modular, I do not know if this is a NEED
- I personally use the XFX Core Edition 750 W. --> This is the 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207014
It's also non-modular, but it is very good, people here recommended it to me.


As for the GPU:
You said he wanted to play games on ultra for now and higher later, I personally think one of these will not cut it.
Alternatives for a little more $, could be:
- EVGA GTX 560 Ti 448 Cores Classified Ultra: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130758
It is an awesome card, I wish i had waited, but I bought my pc before it released.
- MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozer II or the hawk: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127578
Both awesome cards, those were not in stock when I bought mine frown.gif
- Asus, MSI, Sapphire, XFX Radeon 6950 Series, --> Any with a non reference cooler are quite nice tbh. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150549, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102987,
I have got the Asus 6950 DCII Series with 2GB and I flashed it to a 6970 and it runs everything fine on ultra at 1080*. The ASUS MSI seem to be all sold out. The only disadvantage of the 6000 series is that they stopped producing them.

- Or you can also get a GTX 480 for a decent price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130759&Tpk=GTX%20480

- OR get a 7850 with a non-reference cooler!

Mobo and Ram seem perfectly fine!

Seems like a nice build overal! It will perform!

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My Q6600 was budget at the time I bought it in Jan of 2009- It lasted me over 3 years and could easily have gone another year or more. Only thing I upgraded was the video card to a GTX 480. You will not be future proof, but the computer will last more than a couple years provided you buy the deals.

Lian Li Lancool case was just on sale for $70 and it looks like a great case. Since it is likely no longer on sale, on a budget, I really like the Antec 300 enough that I keep a spare that I bought last time it went on sale for around $40-$50.

GTX 480 may go on sale again soon. They had a sale about 1 month ago when it went for ~$210 brand new EVGA. Keep an eye out for it, and use something you may have laying around for the meanwhile.

Motherboard is your call- too many options with too many features to give any definitive answer. I use an AsRock P67, the X68 will avoid the SATA2 chipset problem so I would go ahead with your current choice.

I also like the Corsair TX650 or TX750 which are always on sale around $65-$85 on newegg. Both are Seasonic made, as I believe the XFX models recommended. Get whichever you find the best deal on- I never see the XFX stuff on sale, but the Corsair stuff alternates sales once every couple weeks with rebates and promo codes/instant savings. Corsair TX650 is non-modular, but has 2 (6+2) power connectors for PCI-e. Enough for a heavy duty single card like the GTX 480.

This is what I would do on a budget, and pretty much how I've always built my PCs. I'm still rocking my Q6600 as a work PC now, and my new 2550k as a gaming PC. I expect the 2550k to last another 3-4 years provided that I upgrade my video card in about 1.5 years.
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