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http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/cto/computer_customize_components.do
there is so much to do with this i cant decide but this is what im thinking.
should i go with the 1 G video memory instead of the 2? should i get the regular battery life instead of the 9 cell? and up the processor speed?
like this. http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/cto/computer_customize_components.do
Or should i do the 1 G video regular battery life and minus the pro speed and get the 1080 screen?
like this http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/cto/computer_customize_components.do
OR
up the card GIGS pro speed like this
https://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/cart_detail.do?pageLink=true&bvLoadCart=1&action=add&disp_msg=0
what would you rather have the better screen or the faster processor?
looking to buy a computer within the next few days so id appreciate some help.
thanx
hope you understand what im trying to do.
best performance will still around 1k maybe11k
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we are not able to access those links you have provided.
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I still say to look at the PowerPro R 11:36 from PowerNotebooks.com as you'll be hard pressed to find a better deal for what you get. Just sayin'. thumb.gif (FYI it's the same model as the FORCE 16F2-012. biggrin.gif)

Don't go for the HP. That laptop IS NOT FOR GAMING!!! It's not built for that! I'm not going to keep telling you this if you aren't going to listen. Adding a dedicated GPU does not make it a gaming laptop!

There are way better choices than HP out there, especially for games.


For the PowerPro R 11:36, just stick with the stock CPU, upgrade to 8GB of ram ($24 upgrade cost) and then upgrade to the Intel Centrino 6230-N Wireless Card. The 6230 has much better range than the stock card, has a higher data transfer rate (300MB/s vs 150MB/s), comes with Bluetooth, and is a dual band card that can run both at the same time. Most require two separate cards to pull that off. thumb.gif

Trust me on this. That will come out to $1,088 and includes free shipping. With this configuration, you will get the i5-2430M @ 2.4GHz (Boosts up to 2.7GHz for both cores and 3.0GHz for one core. Also, don't forget that this CPU is hyperthreaded too!), 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1333 RAM, 1080p Matte 72% Color Gamut Screen (I.E. you get better color naturally and less color shift when tilting the screen.), Nvidia 1.5GB GTX 570M (Can be overclocked nicely too. Usually hits well above what my 460M can manage!), 500GB 7200RPM HDD (Has a second HDD slot too.), x8 CD/DVD Super-Multi Drive, The Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6230 Wifi+Bluetooth Combo Card, No Operating System (I can help get you an OS when you get the laptop.), Full 180w Power Adapter (Useful if you want to upgrade to a better GPU later on.), and a 1-Year Parts and Labor Warranty.

Just so you know, the GTX 570M features 336 CUDA cores like the GTX 460! It's a bit slower than the lesser GTX 460, the one that had only 768MB of Vram and the 192-bit bus width, because it's clocked down but that can be made up with overclocking. It's a potent GPU and can very easily handle 1080p. thumb.gif

For your benefit, here's the Guru3D review of the GTX 460s back when they were released. thumb.gifIt's the page showing you the Vantage score. Also, here's the overclocking thread for the GTX 570M on NotebookReview.com to show you what you can expect and here's the thread for flashing your GPU to even BETTER overclock. thumb.gif

EDIT: Here's the NotebookCheck.net Mobile GPU benchmark list to give you an idea of how powerful each GPU is. Note these scores for Vantage aren't accurate anymore. The 570M usually scores right at 11k for the GPU.

Hope that helps you a bit more! biggrin.gif
Edited by Imglidinhere - 4/17/12 at 10:20am
     
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I still say to look at the PowerPro R 11:36 from PowerNotebooks.com as you'll be hard pressed to find a better deal for what you get. Just sayin'. thumb.gif (FYI it's the same model as the FORCE 16F2-012. biggrin.gif)
Don't go for the HP. That laptop IS NOT FOR GAMING!!! It's not built for that! I'm not going to keep telling you this if you aren't going to listen. Adding a dedicated GPU does not make it a gaming laptop!
There are way better choices than HP out there, especially for games.
For the PowerPro R 11:36, just stick with the stock CPU, upgrade to 8GB of ram ($24 upgrade cost) and then upgrade to the Intel Centrino 6230-N Wireless Card. The 6230 has much better range than the stock card, has a higher data transfer rate (300MB/s vs 150MB/s), comes with Bluetooth, and is a dual band card that can run both at the same time. Most require two separate cards to pull that off. thumb.gif
Trust me on this. That will come out to $1,088 and includes free shipping. With this configuration, you will get the i5-2430M @ 2.4GHz (Boosts up to 2.7GHz for both cores and 3.0GHz for one core. Also, don't forget that this CPU is hyperthreaded too!), 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1333 RAM, 1080p Matte 72% Color Gamut Screen (I.E. you get better color naturally and less color shift when tilting the screen.), Nvidia 1.5GB GTX 570M (Can be overclocked nicely too. Usually hits well above what my 460M can manage!), 500GB 7200RPM HDD (Has a second HDD slot too.), x8 CD/DVD Super-Multi Drive, The Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6230 Wifi+Bluetooth Combo Card, No Operating System (I can help get you an OS when you get the laptop.), Full 180w Power Adapter (Useful if you want to upgrade to a better GPU later on.), and a 1-Year Parts and Labor Warranty.
Just so you know, the GTX 570M features 336 CUDA cores like the GTX 460! It's a bit slower than the lesser GTX 460, the one that had only 768MB of Vram and the 192-bit bus width, because it's clocked down but that can be made up with overclocking. It's a potent GPU and can very easily handle 1080p. thumb.gif
For your benefit, here's the Guru3D review of the GTX 460s back when they were released. thumb.gifIt's the page showing you the Vantage score. Also, here's the overclocking thread for the GTX 570M on NotebookReview.com to show you what you can expect and here's the thread for flashing your GPU to even BETTER overclock. thumb.gif
Hope that helps you a bit more! biggrin.gif

/end thread. LOL
     
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/end thread. LOL

I do these posts a LOT because it's better to say it all at once rather than make one little comment and leave 100 questions unanswered. thumb.gif
     
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i do asppreciate it. thank you ill check it out. like i said ill probably be playing MOSTLY diablo 3, not shooters which id imagine would need a lot better performance parts. i just need someting to hold me over till i get a desktop when i move in with my fiance.
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Dizzy, you ought to check out slickdeals.net and check for various laptop deals, and jump on one that is highly rated by the community.

What glidin suggested is definitely a beastly laptop, but it's probably overkill for Diablo 3.

To give you an idea of the deals on slickdeals.net, here are the specs of a HP DV6T SE laptop I purchased for my brother in Aug 2011:
CPU: i5-2410M
GPU: AMD/ATI HD 6770M
RAM: 6 GB
Drives: BD-ROM, 640 GB HDD
OS: Win 7 Home Premium x64
and a free Xbox 360! (Microsoft had a promotion at the time)

^--This all cost a total of $798 after taxes. Sold the 360 for $200, which brought the price down to $598. Sold the 640 GB HDD, and replaced it with a 120 GB Mushkin Enhanced SSD.

Boots to a useable desktop faster than my sig rig, plays BF3 at 1024x768 very well for my brother on medium settings, and spec-wise I imagine it would be plenty for Diablo 3. I figure if Diablo 3 is designed any way similar to SC2 and other RTS's, it would be more CPU dependent than GPU dependent.

It obviously can't compare to the great builds of laptops DESIGNED for gaming. For instance in FPS games, the HP keyboard can occasionally lock up when too many buttons are pressed (typically in FPS's where you need to sprint [Shift], with a direction [W], while reloading [R], etc.) since it has a low key rollover rate. That said, this laptop serves its purpose (for both school and gaming), and was done on a budget.

On a side note:
As for how many cells your battery should be, it won't really matter unless you plan on using the laptop on the go for productivity purposes. If you run your laptop on its battery and expect good gaming performance, you're going to be unpleasantly surprised. Running a game on a laptop is highly recommended on AC power, since the battery can't deliver enough current fast enough to the GPU. The GPU will automatically downclock in order to not drain your battery in a matter of minutes.

VRAM isn't terribly important, unless you're running a game at super high resolutions with super high quality textures (think Crysis at 1080p or above with AA). Most general dedicated laptop GPUs won't be able to even supply great enough bandwidth to justify using all that VRAM. If you want to compare mobile GPU performance, the best resource is here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
Edited by mingqi53 - 4/17/12 at 11:23am
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i do asppreciate it. thank you ill check it out. like i said ill probably be playing MOSTLY diablo 3, not shooters which id imagine would need a lot better performance parts. i just need someting to hold me over till i get a desktop when i move in with my fiance.

Even still, working in general for everyday stuff, you want a good machine that has some significant quality backing it. I still stand by what I said and the 570M is literally 100% stronger than the 6770M. You'll enjoy the Nvidia card better in the end.
     
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