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you'll regret for life if you go with FX. Those are all garbage go with i7 2600k, By the way in future you might wanna get better GPU? if not SLI?
FX will bottleneck.
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personally... for $1500, I'd do something like this:

GTX 580 (~$400)
Z77 motherboard (~$200)
i7-2600k ($320)
550W PSU ($50-100)
8GB DDR 1600 RAM (~$50)
500GB HDD ($80-100)
Optical drive ($20)
Heatsink ($20-90)
HAF 922 ($90)

That puts you around $1400. Saved him $100. If you wanted to splurge more on GPU, for around $100 more, you could go with a GTX 680, although like everyone else has said, it's kind of excessive. I tried fitting a 3930k into there, but it's just too tough.
Edited by vikingsteve - 4/16/12 at 10:19pm
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you'll regret for life if you go with FX. Those are all garbage go with i7 2600k
This you want to avoid amd like the plague atm until they come up with a new socket and try get back into the "game". Either a 2500k or 2600k will be so much better for you.
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The 2600k would be better for gaming but for video editing... maybe not so much. Anything that is heavily multi-threaded that can really load the cores will be much faster on the FX-8120. The FX-8120 at 4.6GHz can beat out a 2600k at 4.8GHz by over 10FPS on the second pass of a x264 encode.
That being said, a Phenom II X6 at 4.2GHz beats out the same 2600k by 7FPS on the second pass. Personally I'd say that Bulldozer is the better buy but you also can't go wrong with an X6.

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It's true that i5 and i7 are ruling at the moment because most of the people here come for gaming rig but who knows maybe 8120 maybe better than current i5 and i7 later when games would require more than 4 cores :/

How much difference is there in performance between lets say i7 2600k and 8120 FPS wise.
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I can't believe that there's that many people that love talking straight out of their ass.
Almost every thread you get people suggesting Intel all the time, which is pathetic. Give AMD a break, the 8 core FX cpu's are great for what they're meant to do and are just as good in gaming as Intel is, and how on earth would an 8 core FX bottleneck ANYTHING? Some people just make me want to.... kill a kitten.
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They are half cores so ye........ They were originally meant to be a server cpu, and got dumbed down to the masses and sold. They do not perform aswell as the true 4 core intel cpus for gaming.
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It's true that i5 and i7 are ruling at the moment because most of the people here come for gaming rig but who knows maybe 8120 maybe better than current i5 and i7 later when games would require more than 4 cores :/
How much difference is there in performance between lets say i7 2600k and 8120 FPS wise.

No. Bulldozer will not be better when games require more than 4 cores. This can already be seen in Shogun 2:Total war benchmarks. Shogun 2 can use at least 6 cores... I dunno about the full 8, but it certainly uses 6 (check out bit tech's 3930k review, where the 6-core sandy bridge-e processors get the highest score).

You can see here:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_CPU_Scaling/15.html
That an i5-2500k and even last generation Intel processors are superior to bulldozer even in a game that uses more than 4 cores (actually the only game that uses more than 4 cores that I know of, heh). Until the last test anyway, when the graphics card holds all 3 processors back to the same point. This is actually one of Bulldozer's better showings in CPU limited games... the answer to how much difference FPS wise is: a big difference in favor of the i7-2600k in games where CPU matters. The same performance if your graphics card setup can't cope with your current game.

@Bluestr Which brings up the following point: all those benchmarks showing Bulldozer or AMD as good as Intel in gaming are cases where graphics is limiting performance for both processors. In any case where your CPU is going to make any difference at all in performance, Intel clearly wins - at any price point.

AMD can be better for multi-threaded applications at some middle-low price points. But even then sandy bridge performance is close.

Edit: Bit Tech's Shogun 2 benchmarks showing no benefits of hyperthreading in Shogun 2:Total War (identical i7-2600k & i5-2500k scores) but an ability to use 6 genuine cores. This is just about the only review where the 3930k will out perform a quad-core sandy bridge in gaming.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/11/14/intel-sandy-bridge-e-review/7

Shogun 2: Total War is also one of the most hardware-demanding games on the market today for both CPU and GPU, as good an indicator of theoretical future performance of games using more than 4 threads as we have at the moment. Not to mention you'd probably be considering a new processor by the time heavily multi-threaded games became common anyway (because it will be years down the road).
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First thing is that there are some changings and now i'm pretty much angry with my friend tongue.gif because now he's saving 400 bucks for screen so i'm pretty much down to 200 chf (250$) for cpu and the thing is that wouldn't it be better to spend more on GPU than CPU if there isn't a huge difference in FPS between i5 2500k and bulldozer.
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