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Pretty funny that i posted in the amd section hoping that i might get amd alternatives but it seems everyone's just getting i series cpus....such a shame for people like me who waited for bulldozer to be released and our hopes were for nothing because you could've gotten i series way before and could've been happier rather than waiting for so long..

There is no doubt that the new i-series CPUs are overall stronger than Bulldozer is overall and in many occasions bests AMD by a wide margin. It's pretty much how it has always been recently. There is one more factor that, at least for me, made me choose AMD over Intel. Intel is killing off the LGA1155 socket. When Ivy Bridge is released it will be the last generation of processor you will be able to buy without having to buy a new motherboard. It is reported that AMD will be releasing 2 more generations of Bulldozer-architecture CPUs (Piledriver based) on the AM3+ platform before moving to AM4 (or whatever they end up calling it). If you like to keep your computer going with CPU/GPU upgrades I don't see any reason to buy an Intel setup right now with them releasing the last LGA1155 processors. Maybe it's just me, but I don't like buying into a platform that is dead in the water the minute I buy it.

Think of it as playing the long game over the short game. Keeping up with Intel upgrades is going to cost you a lot more than keeping up with AMD's upgrades. After looking at all of the reviews and benchmarks I feel like AMD is still a good buy right now. I will say though that if you plan on going multi-GPU that it is better to go Intel because of the large performance gap when you start adding GPUs.

Those are just my thoughts on it and why I chose recently to build a new system with a FX-8120 processor. Take it with a grain of salt just like everyone else's advice.
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There is no doubt that the new i-series CPUs are overall stronger than Bulldozer is overall and in many occasions bests AMD by a wide margin. It's pretty much how it has always been recently. There is one more factor that, at least for me, made me choose AMD over Intel. Intel is killing off the LGA1155 socket. When Ivy Bridge is released it will be the last generation of processor you will be able to buy without having to buy a new motherboard. It is reported that AMD will be releasing 2 more generations of Bulldozer-architecture CPUs (Piledriver based) on the AM3+ platform before moving to AM4 (or whatever they end up calling it). If you like to keep your computer going with CPU/GPU upgrades I don't see any reason to buy an Intel setup right now with them releasing the last LGA1155 processors. Maybe it's just me, but I don't like buying into a platform that is dead in the water the minute I buy it.
Think of it as playing the long game over the short game. Keeping up with Intel upgrades is going to cost you a lot more than keeping up with AMD's upgrades. After looking at all of the reviews and benchmarks I feel like AMD is still a good buy right now. I will say though that if you plan on going multi-GPU that it is better to go Intel because of the large performance gap when you start adding GPUs.
Those are just my thoughts on it and why I chose recently to build a new system with a FX-8120 processor. Take it with a grain of salt just like everyone else's advice.

pretty much what i was looking for. Tell me a bit more about the motherboard which best supports the bulldozer in terms of overclocking, stability...

Since you've built a bulldozer, you must have come across other motherboards such as Asus sabertooth. How is that in terms of supporting bulldozer because that's the one available to my friend and it is within the range as well.
post #33 of 56
IMO you should really look into a PII Thuban over a FX chip. Thuban is an excellent architecture from AMD.

For the best performance, you should really grab an i5/7 though. I would suggest grabbing a k series CPU, Unless you truly plan on upgrading the CPU to piledriver whenever it is released.
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I gotta say I find this thread hilarious. A guy who was just complaining about waiting so long only to be disappointed by AMD's new release has decided to put off getting the best possible equipment so he can wait for AMD's next release.

And people are 'saving money' by upgrading every AMD release instead of just buying a better processor and keeping it longer. I guess it avoids those massive motherboard expenses. *ahem*

It's mostly marginal advantages anyway. The occasional slowdown never hurt anyone.
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Get the 2500k or be back on these forums in a few weeks going why am I only getting 70-90 percent gpu usage in every game?! tongue.gif
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pretty much what i was looking for. Tell me a bit more about the motherboard which best supports the bulldozer in terms of overclocking, stability...
Since you've built a bulldozer, you must have come across other motherboards such as Asus sabertooth. How is that in terms of supporting bulldozer because that's the one available to my friend and it is within the range as well.

I am a really big fan of the current ASUS' offerings with the Crosshair V and the Saberthooth. Both are great motherboards and I have seen great overclocking and stability/reliability with them.

If your friends does decide to go with AMD, make sure it is really going to fit with what he wants. If gaming is really all he plans to do with this build Intel's current offerings are faster in almost all game and even more so with SLI/Crossfire. Bulldozer can be really fast at some things but if he is never going to take advantage of any of that then he may be better off buying Intel this time around.
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Get the 2500k or be back on these forums in a few weeks going why am I only getting 70-90 percent gpu usage in every game?! tongue.gif

what do you mean?

and it's not me who is buying a computer, it's my friend therefore i'm asking all kind of stupid questions/making assumptions before i suggest him something because if it doesn't go the way he wanted, it'll all be on me lol :/
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what do you mean?
and it's not me who is buying a computer, it's my friend therefore i'm asking all kind of stupid questions/making assumptions before i suggest him something because if it doesn't go the way he wanted, it'll all be on me lol :/

He means the FX will bottleneck your GPU. Which it will.
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He means the FX will bottleneck your GPU. Which it will.

ok lol i'm giving it a thought....also someone advised me invest more money and get hd 78700 instead of hd 7850 which is 100$ more so now i'm confused whether i should invest more money to get i5 + hd 7850 or get bulldozer + 7870 because my friend is giving Crossfire a thought.

EDIT: Also what do you guys think about the llano quad core chips LOL
Edited by shad0wboss - 4/18/12 at 3:48am
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That is a difficult desicion, if its a pure gaming rig then you always want the better card. So in this case the amd proccesser and the 7870 would probally be better. But not bulldozer unless you can get a 8120 and a really nice cooler and oc the crap out of it tongue.gif
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