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guys chill out.the overclock is not a number.if you can achieve a perfomance with a lower clock why it is a fail?if a 3 ghz cpu can win a 5ghz is a fail because it can not overclock its a fail.no ofc not.intel aims more with the ivy bridge the people without sandy bridge already.also its in the same level with the sb but it consume less.i cant understand where is the fail.and my entire life work only with amd cpu.the times from p4 where the clocks is the only important have passed a long time ago.also you cant understand that this is the 22nm version of sb what do you expect?30 % up?it gives you 5-6 % better perfomance clock to clock consumes less and gives you more features(native 3.0,pcexpress 3.0).
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if you can achieve a perfomance with a lower clock why it is a fail?

We were expecting more from 3D transistors and 22nm. Instead of moving forward with overlocking headroom, we're moving backwards. Ivy apparently has a really nasty curve when it comes to upping voltages.
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post #73 of 183
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We were expecting more from 3D transistors and 22nm. Instead of moving forward with overlocking headroom, we're moving backwards. Ivy apparently has a really nasty curve when it comes to upping voltages.

but if you have the same perfomance with less overclocking where is the problem?
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Man, it looks even cooler when you're more drunk. I need to do this more often.
I think I may hold off until Haswell though. I think the soiling my pants factor might be stronger if I wait, or at least until a new stepping of Ivy comes out. An i5 Sandy Bridge is already 100% faster than my chip at stock, so Haswell should be lots of fun.

I need an upgrade like ASAP because my gpu usage in games can be as low as 20%...
post #75 of 183
After reading a few posts, ivy bridge is a fail concerning power consumption. It is similar to sandy bridge while intel announced it would be 30% more efficient. The first TDP announced was 77W which is 80% of SB (95W) and now they put it on the same level with nearly zero improvement (<5%).
Ivy bridge had every thing to be a fantastic Tick. The 3D gate is a great innovation but it seems it isn't enough mature. If there wasn't a shrink, the CPU would be worse in term of consumption than SB! eek.gif

Not flaming or anything. Ivy is still nice but just not as what I was expecting.
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also i believe we cant talk about ivy as a finished thing because there are not any official review or even the official release.speculation is fine.i believe the guy who bought the early 3570k here in OCN tomorrow he waits the 3770k retail box so we will know more by the end of the week
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post #77 of 183
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but if you have the same perfomance with less overclocking where is the problem?

Because you can't overclock any higher. The option isn't there, without "exotic" cooling at least.
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Or AMD's Bulldozer tongue.gif
Bulldozer moved backwards in some cases... this is all forward. Just not as far forward as we'd hoped. Power consumption's still down though, and really for the consumer base that matters, that's the important part.
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post #78 of 183
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Because you can't overclock any higher. The option isn't there, without "exotic" cooling at least.

maybe we all get a bit greedy with the perfomance of sb.maybe this architecture reach his full potential?maybe we will see more from haswell?dunno but ivy is a great chip even if it cant do 5ghz.as long i have a stable fast overclock cpu that wins easily any other competition i believ e that is success.about the real potential of these chips as i already said we will see it after the official release and some official reviews

if you remember there was a lot of leaked reviews showing that gtx680 is about 20% faster than 7970 which isnt real.there are equaly so i just w8 to see ivy in release
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I like how a 2.4GHz PHII "needs" updating, and here I am with my Socket 939 2.4GHz Athlon 64 x2...

(note: I ran a 1.9GHz Athlon XP from 2006 to early 2011)
Edited by Nintendo Maniac 64 - 4/16/12 at 8:56pm
 
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I like how a 2.4GHz PHII "needs" updating.
(note: I ran a 1.9GHz Athlon XP from 2006 to early 2011)

lol a friend runs an athlon 64 3400 i think and he is playing wow
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