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Well, thats obviously the Grateful Dead ... Google says Lloyd Noble in Oct 11 1977
Oklahoma City fairgrounds arena in '73
Oklahoma City music hall in '72
Close enuf ?
oh, how about Red Rocks park in Colorado ? dye .... red ....
wait a minute, I can see trees thru the left under the stage canopy... the security guy up front could be an Oklahoma athlete with that build and shirt color....
Jerry's looking slim .. 20 years ago, Jerry died in '95, so ...

Grateful Dead - Yes!
OKC - No

I'm glad I'm not old enough to have taken a picture in 1973. I actually hand picked this one for you socketus. I spent a night in Lawrence while I was traveling for this tour. And yeah, it was the smallest I had ever seen Jerry in 20+ shows. Show was in 1991. Another guess? Anyone?
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Sandstone 1991 Grateful Dead .. of course !!! Now known as Cricket Wireless Amphitheater.

Bonner Springs KS 06.25.1991

that was a big fat one, did I hit it out of the park ??


Smallest ? ....dang it, the Dead hit only a few Midwest spots in '91 in June.
Chicago Soldier Field on 06.22
Sandstone in Bonner Springs KS on 06.24-25
Denver Mile High on 06.28

If you consider Ohio the Midwest, the Dead hit up Ohio in early June and early September
Noblesville & Hebron and then Richfield

Hows dem apples ? wink.gif
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Bingo! The 1990 Bonner Springs show was actually my very first Dead show, but this picture was from the 1991 show. So yeah, you hit it out of the park. After that 1990 show, I was hooked, and saw them 20+ times over the next 3 years. I caught all of the Chicago shows during this period, but that was the only other Midwest venue I went to. Saw them multiple times in Las Vegas, NYC, Oakland, and San Diego. Was a great time, ....from what I remember of it. thumb.gif

Ooooooo.......tie-dyed Grateful Dead themed sleeving. Wonder how many old hippies are building computers these days.
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Its nice that the Dead community are so comprehensive on the listing of anything to do with the Dead's playing history.

I saw them once, daytime at the Kansas City Royals stadium - they did a mid-afternoon show that went by too quick. The headliner that night was Willie Nelson. I didn't begin to appreciate the Dead's music until much later ... but I quickly caught up some on their cds. Then I had the fortune to work with a guy who was a guitarist for one of the Dead tribute bands .... and man ! was he full of Dead history ! Photographic memory and he could tell the tales and the family tree ... just amazing. And these tribute bands play specific set lists from the Dead's long concert history. Amazing stuff.

Ya know, I was thinking if this dyeing of sleeving takes off, there could come a time not only for tie-dying patterns, but logos or mixes of colors/patterns .... Its not exactly a machine industry, but it might become one. I'm working on a design of a 24pin ATX sleeving job that more or less simulates the Asus mobo southbridge cover I have.

Not that I would want what is basically a hand craft to become automated ... but more like tapestry, and its rich history ..
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Looks to me like if I mixed a little bit of red into the scarlet, that I'd be pretty close to the MDPC-X Color X sleeve. The Color-X is fairly close to the ultimate color I'm trying to do for my build (will be a tribute to my alma mater...the University of Oklahoma). The Color-X is more of a deep blood red, and my color needs to be closer to crimson (a tad more purple in it).
I've had several people question why you would ever dye your own sleeve, when MDPC-X has so many options available now. Well....you would do it for the same reason you do lots of stuff in your computer....you want it to look absolutely perfect. And as powder coating becomes more prevalent (which I believe it will), there are going to be lots of custom colored cases out there...absolutely screaming to have some custom colored sleeving to match it. And even if the color you want is pretty close to one that is already offered by MDPC-X, just think how great it would be to know that you could dye your connectors to match that color if you wanted. Or a piece of acrylic that you are using in the build could be dyed to match the same color. Even aluminum, once anodized, is readily accepting of dye. Once you can dye something the color of your build, you are no longer limited to what vendors offer. You can do anything you want. And to top it off, its kind of fun. wink.gif
Many more upcoming tests with the new disperse dye over the next couple of weeks. After I feel like I've tied down the process fairly tight, I'm going to put together a How-To Guide in a new thread. I'll link to it from here, so sub this thread if you want to make sure and see the final guide. Also, I'm going to do a review of FTW vs MDPC-X vs Paracord, and I'll post a new thread for that. Rep+ to show me some love, and keep your dogs out of the dye bath.

Good Show! The limits always need to be pushed. thumb.gif
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Subbed. This is very impressive work and could be very useful someday!
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Very nice sir, you have almost made it. I wonder now if this works with heatshrink too, to have it matching the custom colored sleeve. +REP for the awesome work
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I saw them once, daytime at the Kansas City Royals stadium - they did a mid-afternoon show that went by too quick. The headliner that night was Willie Nelson.

Willie Nelson opened for the Dead? That is so wrong. Although I did see some unusual pairings for the Dead's opening act during my tour years. Steve Miller traveled with them one summer and he actually learned to do some improvisation with this songs like the Dead do...and won over the audience over the summer. Sting...who I was looking forward to seeing, got booed by the Dead crowd. Bob Dylan was fun to watch, but he clearly has already seen his better days.

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Good Show! The limits always need to be pushed. thumb.gif

Thanks Lutro0!

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Subbed. This is very impressive work and could be very useful someday!

Much appreciated SilentStrike!

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Very nice sir, you have almost made it. I wonder now if this works with heatshrink too, to have it matching the custom colored sleeve. +REP for the awesome work

Thanks Carmas! Regarding the heatshrink, my guess is that it would start melting almost instantly, if I follow the same process I've been using. The dye bath is actually brought to boiling before putting in the sleeving. But....., I might try and see if any dye is absorbed by the heatshrink if I wait and put it in after the dye bath has returned to room temperature. Interesting idea. I'll try it in an upcoming batch and post pics so you can see results!

Have finished 3 more dye bath tests in search of my color, since my last post. Have lots of pictures to post later today. I'll start working on them now.
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3 more dye bath tests with pictures!

Ok. I'm not going to bore you more than I have already with the pictures of the dye, and the pot and the vinegar, etc., for each of these 3 tests. You've seen those kind of pics before. Just know that for all 3 of these tests, I used my normal 4 quarts of water, 2 tbs dye carrier, little more than 1/2 cup vinegar, and about 3 tsp of the disperse dye. Simmered for 45 minutes. The thing that was different in each dye bath was the mixture of the different colors of dye used in each one.

I'm also going to describe my 3 color mixtures here in one location, and simply refer to them by Mix #1, Mix #2, and Mix #3 for the rest of the thread.

Mix #1 - 2 tsp scarlet; 1 tsp red
Mix #2 - 2 tsp scarlet; 1 tsp red; 1/8 tsp lilac
Mix #3 - 2 tsp scarlet; 1/2 tsp red; 1/16 tsp lilac

From the last dye bath post, you can see the as-is colors of the scarlet, red and lilac that I'm mixing in this post. Lets get on to the result pictures.

Here is Mix #1, in the following order: FTW, MDPC-X, and Paracord:

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That strip below the 3 sleeve lengths is a sample of the Prismatic Powder I've selected for my new powder coated Caselabs TH10. Its been ordered, and yes, I'm excited. Build log will be starting soon, and I'll post a link to the build log in this thread after I've started. Anyway, this Mix #1 came out almost like a true red, with the slightest tinge of pink. You'll remember from previous post that the red dye comes out very pink on the sleeves. These are clearly too bright red, and don't have enough purple to make it a crimson color. So....I added some lilac for Mix #2.

Here is Mix #2, in the same order: FTW, MDPC-X, and Paracord:

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Oooooo....that's getting closer. An improvement for sure. But...it actually has a little TOO much purple in it now. So for mix #3, I decreased the amount of lilac dye, and also decreased the amount of red dye. Since I'm starting to zero in on the color, I also took this next dye bath as an opportunity to see what some other items would look like coming out of the dye bath. KylePDalton had wondered about connectors, so I threw in a male and female molex connector, as well as some clear plastic tubing (this is Tygon tubing from our friends at Sidewinder Computers (great service and selection...check them out). ROM3000 had requested to see some results of trying to dye black sleeving instead of white, so I threw a piece of black sleeve in the dye bath also. Ask and ye shall receive!

Here is Mix #3, in the same order: FTW, MDPC-X and Parcord:

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Ooooooo.....getting even closer. Not as bright red as Mix #1, and too much purple like Mix #2. Getting close with the tint, but it could stand to be a little bit darker. Got some more tinkering to do, but its almost there. Now, what about that tubing? Glad you asked:

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These look freaking amazing! Pictures can't do it justice. It turned the clear tubing a beautiful even crimson color both inside and out. The tube is also now opaque instead of clear. It really is gorgeous. If you don't want to mess with putting dyes in your coolant, this is super easy to do and will allow you to zero in on the exact shade you need. Try it! I left it in the dye bath the same amount of time as the sleeving, and I probably could have taken this out much sooner, and it wouldn't have gotten quite as dark. Will play with this for next test. Now, what about those connectors? Glad you asked:

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They look great!

This is a shot to give you some reference point, by showing my color mixes next to some colors you will be familar with. From left to right, we have the following:

1) MDPC-X - Color Mix #1
2) MDPC-X - Color Mix #2
3) MDPC-X - Color Mix #3
4) MDPC-X - Red (Purchased)
5) MDPC-X - Color X (Purchased)

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I'll be the first to admit that MDPC-X has lots of beautiful colors to choose from. But you can see in the picture that their red sleeve (4th from left) would clearly have looked out of place in my crimson colored build. And although their color -X is a close match to what I'm trying to do, most sleeve manufacturers don't have multiple 'red' options to choose from. Don't limit yourself to what you can buy....if it doesn't match up with your themed vision for your build.

Now, here is a shot of my Mix #3 items, sitting on top of an OU coaches shirt, so you can see how close I'm getting:

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And I'll finish with a shot of the attempt at dyeing black sleeve. As expected, it didn't look great. It did however change the color a little bit...which gives me some ideas about starting with a red to begin with for my tests. Hmmmmmm. Black sleeve in my Mix #3 on the left, Black MDPC-X (purchased...undyed) on the right.

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Edited by cpachris - 5/6/12 at 1:30pm
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Was about to attempt to dye some patterns on my tubing with rit dye. You just sold me on picking up some disperse. Thanks for making my life easier. biggrin.gif
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