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hello I have been researching all day on some good laptop for entertainment/light gaming/school work.

Is upgrade of cpu worth the extra 130 bucks...?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834246328

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834246327


-they all have similar specs but cpu/gpu different is the NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M upgrade or downgrade from the AMD Radeon HD 6650M

-Intel Core i5 2450M(2.50GHz) vs AMD A-Series A6-3420M(1.5GHz)

-500 ( free shipping ) vs 639.99 ( also free shipping )

P.S- are lenovo laptops still reliable as i always heard? I haven't bought lenovo since 2000 when i used to hate the little small red mouse ball they used to have lol.


any information is greatly asppreciated or any way to get discounts on newegg.
post #2 of 22
I'm pretty sure those two video cards are close in performance, don't plan on playing on anything other than low/med on most games though.
not sure on the cpu, but the amd is a quad core with lower frequencies vs the intel dual core + 2 virtual cores at higher clock speeds. I'm not really a fan of amd though.

In my opinion I would go with the intel, nvidia one
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I would go with the Intel/nVidia laptop if your budget allows you to. The i5 will be a significant upgrade over the A6 and the GT 630m (a renamed 540m of I remember correctly) is slightly better than the 6650m.
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Well, you can overclock the AMD A6, so it's worse single-threaded performance can be improved upon (to the tune of 50% or so). And then you have a 2.4ghz AMD quad, to a 2.5ghz Intel i5 dual-core. Pretty much a wash in terms of CPU performance, AMD faster for multi-threaded, Intel for single/dual threaded. 6650M vs 630M is kind of negligible, not worth the $140 price difference.

Lenovo is a good brand. No red trackpoints on the Ideapad line.

Now, if you want the best bang/buck, I'd go with this HP dv6zqe for $575. AMD A6-3420M, and 7690M graphics. These graphics are a solid 20-30% over the 6650M and 630M. As for HP, they're pretty good; of course you can't trust anecdotal evidence for reliability, and it's a trailing indicator regardless. I think they receive too much undue hate from OCN - but you'll also notice how hyped up Asus is as a laptop maker (again, undue IMO; sure Asus has a few good models but they're nothing close to bleeding edge). http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_can_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=notebooks&a1=Category&v1=High+performance&series_name=dv6zqe_series&jumpid=in_R329_prodexp/hhoslp/psg/notebooks/High_performance/dv6zqe_series

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-7690M.67737.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-630M.63761.0.html

-Note 7690M is a 6770M rebrand (I forget if the clock is a few % higher on the 7690M - if so it's negligible). And the 630M is a 540M rebrand.
 
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Thank you all for the help i appreciate it.

By the way can the laptops handle the overclock...? the OC'd quad sounds nice as hell but addition of heat + stress is it viable like desktops...?( can you even add better heatsink to laptops?)

i rarely see strong Overclocking on laptops or i haven't bothered myself personally, then again its been ages since i owned one.

I am super cash strapped so the extra 163 bucks not so much worth it heh i thought the I5 performance worth it over the quad. The benchs on vga cards look somewhat similar tho.

P.S- Wish someone invented water cooled laptop with internal micro reservoir lol XD.
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Thank you all for the help i appreciate it.
By the way can the laptops handle the overclock...? the OC'd quad sounds nice as hell but addition of heat + stress is it viable like desktops...?( can you even add better heatsink to laptops?)
i rarely see strong Overclocking on laptops or i haven't bothered myself personally, then again its been ages since i owned one.
I am super cash strapped so the extra 163 bucks not so much worth it heh i thought the I5 performance worth it over the quad. The benchs on vga cards look somewhat similar tho.
P.S- Wish someone invented water cooled laptop with internal micro reservoir lol XD.

As for overclocking, a lot of people can get a decent OC on stock volts. This first post is all you should need to get started OCing, as you can see he OC'd to 2.4ghz on all 4 cores at 1.15V, and stock voltage is 1.06V. 2ghz quad on stock voltage seems plausible. http://www.overclock.net/t/1218253/this-is-fusion-amd-a8-3500m-and-amd-6750m-on-hp-pavilion-dv6-6135dx

And I suppose 6650M vs. 7690M isn't that big of a difference - it's possible you could OC the 6650M close to 7690M performance. Same GPU core, just slower core clock on the 6650M.
 
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Thank you all for the help i appreciate it.
By the way can the laptops handle the overclock...? the OC'd quad sounds nice as hell but addition of heat + stress is it viable like desktops...?( can you even add better heatsink to laptops?)
i rarely see strong Overclocking on laptops or i haven't bothered myself personally, then again its been ages since i owned one.
I am super cash strapped so the extra 163 bucks not so much worth it heh i thought the I5 performance worth it over the quad. The benchs on vga cards look somewhat similar tho.
P.S- Wish someone invented water cooled laptop with internal micro reservoir lol XD.

They have (closed loop) water-cooling for laptops, it's only going to be reserver for those "gaming laptops" rolleyes.gif.


That HP laptop is what I would suggest as-well, it's REALLY good. Get it with the 6gb of ram and upgrade if you need to (8gb or more). Get the bottom level CPU and overclock it, you will have room as the laptop can handle 2.7ghz (look at the highest spec CPU). Get the 640gb hdd and I would personally get an SSD (pricey) or this (cheaper) as a future upgrade because of higher capacity and much higher boot times. I had an old laptop with the 500gb the hybrid HDD and it boots up in 34 seconds (and I had the old version with a 4gb ssd), and the revised version has a larger ssd (8gb). My raid 0 ssd laptop boots up in 18-19 seconds while my sisters laptop (same hdd it's a hp 640gb with 5400 rpm) takes roughly 100 seconds to boot up.

Btw: the 6650m will NEVER overclock to the same levels as the 7690m and I can guarantee that 7690m can go up to 900mhz (most people can get that with the right cooling), and I can guarantee 850mhz. The 28nm parts mean slightly higher OCing and slightly less heat which is a BIG plus for laptops.
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I couldnt get a better deal with those specs/price :

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/laptops/ideapad/y-series/y470p

i7 - 8gb ram - 750gb hdd - ATI 7690M for ?? $749.99 and i also got bunch of discounts with that. i was a happy customer, i do not think there is a laptop that beats the Y470p with its specs/price
post #9 of 22
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dam man nice find on that lenovo

its a bit extra but it looks like sale price is half off almost. Did you get free shipping on that?

P.S- is it true lenovo have whitelisted parts?
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dam man nice find on that lenovo
its a bit extra but it looks like sale price is half off almost. Did you get free shipping on that?
P.S- is it true lenovo have whitelisted parts?

it was + tax (forgot if its + shipping) but i believe i ended up paying around ~830 total (TAX devilsmiley.gif ) but i dont regret spending a dime on that thing, it works like charm and plays all my games including BF3 (playable low settings) smile.gif CnC3 tiberium wars, max, mw2 max, mw3 max, black ops max, even GTA 4 on ~high AA off. pretty decent lappy.
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