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Oracle and Google kicked off a high-stakes jury trial in San Francisco on Monday, with Oracle arguing that Google ran roughshod over its intellectual property rights because the search giant was scared of getting left behind in the mobile advertising business.
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Oracle sued Google 18 months ago, arguing that its Android operating system infringes Java patents and copyrights that Oracle acquired when it bought Sun Microsystems. Google denies any wrongdoing and says it doesn't need a license for the parts of Java it used.
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Jacobs cited several emails to and from Google executives that he said would show that Google knew it needed a license for Java and that, having failed to negotiate one, it developed Android with Java anyway.

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More patent wars...
Edited by Akheton - 4/16/12 at 6:17pm
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Haha! google does what google wants? Kind of funny if you think about it though.. But really stupid. They've been ignoring everything here these past few years..
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this lawsuit is still going on?

yesh.

I need to be a lawyer.
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IMO, The irony is that the Android platform is probably the best thing to happen to JAVA in recent years.
Edited by BinaryDemon - 4/16/12 at 7:10pm
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I guess Oracle is hoping that they can win this patent battle so they can capitalize the legal fees to the patent's asset account and shore up it's "value" along with getting some cash out of Google. rolleyes.gif

That said...I'm not really sure Google is clean on this one either. Let the mud slinging begin. applaud.gifjerry.gif
     
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I have no real info or insight about any of this, but I would go out on a limb to say that if someone like google was "breaking the rules," then it probably wasn't unknowingly.
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IMO, The irony is that the Android platform is probably the best thing to happen to JAVA in recent years.

Kinda funny since it's a craptacular phone OS. I have both a phone and a tab android device, but I still think the only reason it's so popular is because it's not iOS/an iphone. :/ Just a sad commentary on the situation. thumb.gif
    
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IMO, The irony is that the Android platform is probably the best thing to happen to JAVA in recent years.
This. Java is horrid haha, Android however is pretty awesome.
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I have no real info or insight about any of this, but I would go out on a limb to say that if someone like google was "breaking the rules," then it probably wasn't unknowingly.
Kinda funny since it's a craptacular phone OS. I have both a phone and a tab android device, but I still think the only reason it's so popular is because it's not iOS/an iphone. :/ Just a sad commentary on the situation. thumb.gif

Have you used Android 4.0 ICS? It's amazing. It's just a joy to use. I'll take my Nexus S 4G over my Mom's iPhone 4 any day. And I do like iOS. But only on the iPad. On an iPhone it feels too... restricted I guess.
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This. Java is horrid haha, Android however is pretty awesome.
Have you used Android 4.0 ICS? It's amazing. It's just a joy to use. I'll take my Nexus S 4G over my Mom's iPhone 4 any day. And I do like iOS. But only on the iPad. On an iPhone it feels too... restricted I guess.

Not on a phone, but yes on my TF. It's...not a huge change from honeycomb TBH. Then again, ASUS really screwed the pooch with what they released for the TF and 4.0. Which points to the much larger problem with android--regardless of how nice the stock code might be, it gets messed up by whomever they open-license it to. redface.gif
    
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Not on a phone, but yes on my TF. It's...not a huge change from honeycomb TBH. Then again, ASUS really screwed the pooch with what they released for the TF and 4.0. Which points to the much larger problem with android--regardless of how nice the stock code might be, it gets messed up by whomever they open-license it to. redface.gif
Ahh I don't own an Transformer. Is there a 3rd party overlay over Android? I'm going off of vanilla ICS (hehe) because I've only tried it on a Nexus S, which is a pure Google phone. I never used Honeycomb, so I can't comment on that. It's a huge step up from Gingerbread though.
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IMO, The irony is that the Android platform is probably the best thing to happen to JAVA in recent years.

 

And Minecraft.

 

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Ahh I don't own an Transformer. Is there a 3rd party overlay over Android? I'm going off of vanilla ICS (hehe) because I've only tried it on a Nexus S, which is a pure Google phone. I never used Honeycomb, so I can't comment on that. It's a huge step up from Gingerbread though.


Android gets progressively better with each release, definitely. Eclair and previous versions are pretty painful on low-end hardware, but then again so are iOS and BlackBerry OS.

 

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