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Asus P8Z68-v Pro Gen3 bios update to 3202 results in my AMD 6970s not working

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I've had bios 0402 rock solid since november. Today, in anticipation for ivy bridge I decided to upgrade to the latest bios, 3202. I downloaded it from the web, unzipped, put it on my C drive (NTFS), reboot into the bios and flashed to 3202 using Asus EZ flash 2 from inside the existing 0402 bios. I did NOT load optimized defaults prior to doing this.

It read the file just fine and prompted for reboot. I did so, and upon reboot no video from my 6970

I then cleared CMOS and rebooted, still nothing.

I removed both my 6970s and left in my 6450 in the 3rd (black) slot. Violla! Video.

I tried to revert back to 0402 but to no avail. Asus EZ flash 2 won't let you go back to an older bios.

So I call Asus and they are telling me my bios chip is corrupted and the guy went on a tirade about how its my fault and to never update bios unless there is a problem yada yada yada.

Is there a solution to this? It doesn't seem like a corrupted bios if my 6450 works in every slot, while my 6970s wont. ***. I'd like to just go back to the old bios but I can't seem to be able to.
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Upon further investigation it seems my flashed 6950s (flashed to 6970s) are somehow incompatible with the new bios. When I flip the video bios switch on my video cards to the old 6950 bios, I get video. This is the strangest thing i've ever seen. When I flip it back, no video.

Has anyone seen this and is there a solution? BTW both bioses allow me to fully boot into windows, just with no video coming out of my displayport or hdmi ports when I have the 6970 bios turned on.
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Well, have determined that this is a bios flaw as googling this issue has resulted in numerous threads on various forums with people having the same exact issue with 6970s. Ridiculous. My only options are to RMA the board at my expense & two weeks without it, pay asus $24 for a bios chip (1 week without my video cards) or wait for Asus to release another bios update that hopefully doesn't suck.

Keep in mind that on these bios you cannot revert to the old bios you had before the upgrade. Who ever heard of that? Ridiculous.
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There's many other people with the same issue, I called Ausus Tech to find out what was up, he told me that Asus is aware of the issue, (there's another isssue they added with people running non genuine Windows) but I've been warned by a mod and can't talk about it on OCN. I think the industry is going in this direction, where Companies are going to rely on Mobo companies to put code into thier bios and cancel out undesirable actions of the public, EG. flashed 6950 cards into 6970. I think the issue is not going to go away. So unless you plan on never updating your Bios, or maybe even Video drivers in the furture you should flash your cards back to 6950's. Try to do the 6950 shader unlock only and see if that works with the new bios, I used that on my last set of gpus, 6950's and still was able to get the perofrmance of a 6970 without the memory voltage issues that some people were getting.

Option 2, flash your 6950's back and sell them. Again when I talked to the Asus tech rep, I left the conversation with the impression that this was not done by accident.
 
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There's many other people with the same issue, I called Ausus Tech to find out what was up, he told me that Asus is aware of the issue, (there's another isssue they added with people running non genuine Windows) but I've been warned by a mod and can't talk about it on OCN. I think the industry is going in this direction, where Companies are going to rely on Mobo companies to put code into thier bios and cancel out undesirable actions of the public, EG. flashed 6950 cards into 6970. I think the issue is not going to go away. So unless you plan on never updating your Bios, or maybe even Video drivers in the furture you should flash your cards back to 6950's. Try to do the 6950 shader unlock only and see if that works with the new bios, I used that on my last set of gpus, 6950's and still was able to get the perofrmance of a 6970 without the memory voltage issues that some people were getting.
Option 2, flash your 6950's back and sell them. Again when I talked to the Asus tech rep, I left the conversation with the impression that this was not done by accident.

This seems extremely dubious to me. Bios unlocked shaders work but a flashed bios doesnt? Why would they let one but not another? Just doesn't seem right. Even still, I appreciate your response. thumb.gif Can you send me a PM with more details about the windows / 6970 thing? When I called Asus I didn't mention my cards were unlocked or anything, because to a motherboard it should see the card as a genuine 6970 because the bios is that of a 6970.
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So, my shader flashed 6950 will work with the bios update (Same mobo) but if I was to flash it to a 6970 it wouldn't work? That is one of the strangest compatibility issues I've heard of.
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There's something wrong with regular, non Gen3 ASUS P8Z68-V bioses too. The problem seems to be isolated to new bioses that have Ivy support. I have seen various issues from overclocking stopping from working to big drop in benchmark scores with same settings as before. If anyone reads this and does not need Ivy Bridge support from new bios, DO NOT UPDATE. It's stupid that you can't downgrade from latest bios.
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There's something wrong with regular, non Gen3 ASUS P8Z68-V bioses too. The problem seems to be isolated to new bioses that have Ivy support. I have seen various issues from overclocking stopping from working to big drop in benchmark scores with same settings as before. If anyone reads this and does not need Ivy Bridge support from new bios, DO NOT UPDATE. It's stupid that you can't downgrade from latest bios.

BEYOND stupid. 15+ years working with computers i've never seen a bios that couldn't downgrade. However, UEFI bios is still a beautiful thing. All in all its $24 from asus to get a new bios chip with bios of your choice on it which isn't terrible but there should have been some effing warning that bios upgrades are not reversible. Cmon Asus. I'll just stick with 6950s until the next bios update and if that one also FUBARs my "6970s" i'll just order the old bios.
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