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can't really say i agree, and dont understand as a WC'er how you think gpu blocks are useless when you upgrade? its pretty commong to sell gpu/block sets on the market, if not part them out.
don't universal blocks simply cover the chip, and dont cool the v-regs at all?

Yeah you can sell the blocks but in many cases they are hard to unload. You will be selling at least a generation behind and those will probably bargain seeking buyers. Many times I see people asking, how much for the card with the original cooler, I don't water cool. You lose a lot of potential buyers. If you part them you get the possibility of what he said, an expensive paper weight.

You are right you still need to cool the RAM and everything else with heatsinks and air movement but these are also reusable in the future.
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Yeah you can sell the blocks but in many cases they are hard to unload. You will be selling at least a generation behind and those will probably bargain seeking buyers. Many times I see people asking, how much for the card with the original cooler, I don't water cool. You lose a lot of potential buyers. If you part them you get the possibility of what he said, an expensive paper weight.
You are right you still need to cool the RAM and everything else with heatsinks and air movement but these are also reusable in the future.

I plan to place RAM Sinks on them.
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post #13 of 49
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Yeah you can sell the blocks but in many cases they are hard to unload. You will be selling at least a generation behind and those will probably bargain seeking buyers. Many times I see people asking, how much for the card with the original cooler, I don't water cool. You lose a lot of potential buyers. If you part them you get the possibility of what he said, an expensive paper weight.
You are right you still need to cool the RAM and everything else with heatsinks and air movement but these are also reusable in the future.

to be honest, i dont see any block being paper weights, especially for high end cards like this. yea, maybe this year 4750 blocks aren't going to move quick, but selling a 560ti with full WB will be sold quickly, together or apart, for the next year or so. I see 6970/6990 570/580 blocks all the time on the market. And as for the bargain buyer, thats basically implied anytime you selll something on OCN. people know exactly what your item is worth, and know your are looking to sell it for one reason or another, so they're pretty right in assuming they can knock 5-10% off your asking price. But hey, at least we can resell our stuff on here, and also obtain items we know will work and function properly.

so OP, please just go get a full block.. It cools all the components (plus those damn little sinks get expensive), and it looks much better.

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I plan to place RAM Sinks on them.

OP , i'm looking at ur rig and its not cheap. So why go the cheap route on your gpu blocks? plus, IMO, its looks very tacky compared to a full WB
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That's what I did originally. I now have the Swiftech aluminum heatsink that goes with these cards since I plan on keeping them for a long while.
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to be honest, i dont see any block being paper weights, especially for high end cards like this. yea, maybe this year 4750 blocks aren't going to move quick, but selling a 560ti with full WB will be sold quickly, together or apart, for the next year or so. I see 6970/6990 570/580 blocks all the time on the market. And as for the bargain buyer, thats basically implied anytime you selll something on OCN. people know exactly what your item is worth, and know your are looking to sell it for one reason or another, so they're pretty right in assuming they can knock 5-10% off your asking price. But hey, at least we can resell our stuff on here, and also obtain items we know will work and function properly.
so OP, please just go get a full block.. It cools all the components (plus those damn little sinks get expensive), and it looks much better.
OP , i'm looking at ur rig and its not cheap. So why go the cheap route on your gpu blocks? plus, IMO, its looks very tacky compared to a full WB

The problem I am having is finding a full cover that will actually fit. I have asked on the EVGA forums and no one really knows if a gtx 580 block will fit. I do not want to drop $200 and find out the blocks do not fit. I do not think they let you return blocks.
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IMO universal blocks are the way to go even for high end cards unless you really don't mind spending the extra money for full blocks every time you upgrade. I used to have a gtx480 with a full ek block on it and though it was nice and cooled everything on the card, I just could not justify buying another $100 block for the second gtx480 I got. I instead sold the block and bought 2 XSPC Universal GPU blocks and am very happy with them. My overclocks have not suffered and when I upgrade to newer gen cards eventually, they will be ready for water cooling immediately unlike full blocks that take a long time to come out.
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IMO universal blocks are the way to go even for high end cards unless you really don't mind spending the extra money for full blocks every time you upgrade. I used to have a gtx480 with a full ek block on it and though it was nice and cooled everything on the card, I just could not justify buying another $100 block for the second gtx480 I got. I instead sold the block and bought 2 XSPC Universal GPU blocks and am very happy with them. My overclocks have not suffered and when I upgrade to newer gen cards eventually, they will be ready for water cooling immediately unlike full blocks that take a long time to come out.

That is great man, I planned on getting the bridge edition so I can use the bridge to connect the cards. I was thinking this would not look that bad.

EVGAJacob said that the GTX 580 blocks should fit but it has not been tested.....
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to be honest, i dont see any block being paper weights, especially for high end cards like this. yea, maybe this year 4750 blocks aren't going to move quick, but selling a 560ti with full WB will be sold quickly, together or apart, for the next year or so. I see 6970/6990 570/580 blocks all the time on the market. And as for the bargain buyer, thats basically implied anytime you selll something on OCN. people know exactly what your item is worth, and know your are looking to sell it for one reason or another, so they're pretty right in assuming they can knock 5-10% off your asking price. But hey, at least we can resell our stuff on here, and also obtain items we know will work and function properly.
so OP, please just go get a full block.. It cools all the components (plus those damn little sinks get expensive), and it looks much better.
OP , i'm looking at ur rig and its not cheap. So why go the cheap route on your gpu blocks? plus, IMO, its looks very tacky compared to a full WB

I agree that the full blocks look nicer but really, how much time are you gonna spend looking at them? I have more a need for reusable value rather than worrying about aesthetics which is why I recommended the universal. I have used this setup now on 3 different GPUs, you just can't do that with the full blocks.

I will say, however, depending on how you plan to set the system up, you may want to consider the full blocks. If you are not going to have some air flowing over the cards is one reason. If you plan to overclock the RAM a lot could be another. If you are going to run high voltage on the card, the voltage regulators may not cool well with the small heatsink blocks.
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I agree that the full blocks look nicer but really, how much time are you gonna spend looking at them? I have more a need for reusable value rather than worrying about aesthetics which is why I recommended the universal. I have used this setup now on 3 different GPUs, you just can't do that with the full blocks.
I will say, however, depending on how you plan to set the system up, you may want to consider the full blocks. If you are not going to have some air flowing over the cards is one reason. If you plan to overclock the RAM a lot could be another. If you are going to run high voltage on the card, the voltage regulators may not cool well with the small heatsink blocks.

Lol, so by that logic why not just have a messy case with wires everywhere and a beat up case that looks like garbage. Most of us who WC are proud of our cases, and are yes spending money to drop tempes, but for $500-$1000 we want it to looks a specific way. Like i said, if your going to spend $600 on gpus, its seems odd to cool them with the most meager means possible as far as WCing goes.
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Lol, so by that logic why not just have a messy case with wires everywhere and a beat up case that looks like garbage. Most of us who WC are proud of our cases, and are yes spending money to drop tempes, but for $500-$1000 we want it to looks a specific way. Like i said, if your going to spend $600 on gpus, its seems odd to cool them with the most meager means possible as far as WCing goes.

Do you think I should take pics of the bare PCB and send the to EK to get clarification?
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