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Hi all. I am building a new PC for our photography business. We currently are using the one in my sig rig and need another for our studio. Ideally, I want to build a rig in which all I have to do is change out the processor in 3-5 years when it is outdated.

I don't mind using a quad core for now, but would like to be able to clock it up to 4.0ghz on air and then in 3-5 years, i may need a 6 or 8 core processor and would like to just drop that in without replacing the mobo.

We mainly do photo editing (light room, CS5), HD editing, surfing, check emails, stream music, gaming (BF3). most programs (other than BF3) are left open at the same time and we pop back and forth checking emails, uploading photos, retouching photos, etc.

I would like to keep my mobo and cpu under $500. I was originally looking at BD's....but people don't seem to be real happy with them. I posted in another thread about my needs and most everyone recomneded intel: either 2600k - which wouldn't allow for much upgrading for more cores down the road due to frequent socket change or getting a 3820 now and buying a used 3930k later.

I really hate to buy a new cpu with ony 4 cores when there are cheap chips with more cores available and most likely will make for an easy upgrade (AM3+)....but I don't really want to sacrifice alot of perofrmance.

Any recommendations? I really waanted to go BD (FX8150) but I'm nervous after reading the reviews...

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I have an 8150 and its awesome! really good chip works nice and fast.... I dont understand why you'd be nervous on purchasing one?
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post #3 of 13
No stay away from fx, intel all the way atm. 2600k or 3820 just now then the 3990k later when prices come down.
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I dont understand why you'd be nervous on purchasing one?
Because they are awfull!
post #4 of 13
With Intel, you wont need to swap out your parts in 3 or 5 years.

And if you want, you can get a nice X79 mobo, and the i7 3820 for a little bit over $500. It will last you a long time, and you can always upgrade to a 6 core.

A nice P67/Z68/Z77 mobo and an i5 2500k should last you quite some time too.

FYI, the Bulldozer really isn't 8 "cores". Who would you think is more of an athlete? A baseball pitcher that stands still and throws a ball very fast, or a hockey player?

Same goes to BD's "cores" in comparison to any REAL cores.
Edited by Kvjavs - 4/17/12 at 3:57pm
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Just check out this link and make your decision based on the real world performance.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=434

The FX series CPUs are horrendous if you consider what their competition has to offer...... frown.gif

They do marginally better when it comes to HD video encoding, but that is with twice as many cores. They even manage to do worse in Photoshop, in addition to many of the benchmarks that are optimized to utilize every core. Almost every test shows the FX series processor lagging behind the intel counterparts, and not just a little bit.

Even if you compare the FX 8 core processor to a dual core Intel processor in many applications it is still worse. In the applications where it does beat the dual core, the performance approaches 2:1 at most, even though the FX processor has four times as many cores.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=434
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I have an 8150 and its awesome! really good chip works nice and fast.... I dont understand why you'd be nervous on purchasing one?

This kind of post is referred to as a "troll" or someone "trolling" because they attempt to confuse people with bad advice or blatant misinformation. Also known as a "fanboy" someone who will suggest a worse alternative because they personally like it more.(subjective rather than objective)
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post #6 of 13
^^ Yip see him and a few others chiming in every time saying how an 8120 would rival a 2500k or 2600k when that is just so far from the truth its not even funny. It comes with the ownership of the product and wanting to convince yourself that its good and worth the purchase compared to the competition.
post #7 of 13
You would probably be better served by an Intel build. The segment of the market that AMD's current offerings beat Intel at is very narrow so unless you happen to fit in with the running tons of virtual machines/heavy video encoding crowd you should go with an Intel build.
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Hi all. I am building a new PC for our photography business. We currently are using the one in my sig rig and need another for our studio. Ideally, I want to build a rig in which all I have to do is change out the processor in 3-5 years when it is outdated.
I don't mind using a quad core for now, but would like to be able to clock it up to 4.0ghz on air and then in 3-5 years, i may need a 6 or 8 core processor and would like to just drop that in without replacing the mobo.
We mainly do photo editing (light room, CS5), HD editing, surfing, check emails, stream music, gaming (BF3). most programs (other than BF3) are left open at the same time and we pop back and forth checking emails, uploading photos, retouching photos, etc.
I would like to keep my mobo and cpu under $500. I was originally looking at BD's....but people don't seem to be real happy with them. I posted in another thread about my needs and most everyone recomneded intel: either 2600k - which wouldn't allow for much upgrading for more cores down the road due to frequent socket change or getting a 3820 now and buying a used 3930k later.
I really hate to buy a new cpu with ony 4 cores when there are cheap chips with more cores available and most likely will make for an easy upgrade (AM3+)....but I don't really want to sacrifice alot of perofrmance.
Any recommendations? I really waanted to go BD (FX8150) but I'm nervous after reading the reviews...
Help!

Don't be nervous.
I work every day with CS5 and Pinnacle 15, and everyday I upload few Gig's of all this staff in to work website.
Also I do a lot of music remastering for sports, which is very heavy job to do so, such as voice removing/cancelling, songs and sounds margins and so on...
... and Yes at night I play BF3 and it's not bottlenecking my crossfire 6970-6950Toxic
All this with easy works with my FX8120, but remember it must be overclock over 4.5Ghz to be faster as needed.
Intel is good chips hands down but under heavy load FX wins big time, because originally it was design as Server chip and we all know what Server chips good for.... Multitasking

So if you up to Heavy load with lot's of jobs to do.... go with FX
if you need quick job on the go use Intel.

One more tip, with AMD prices I change CPU almost every year, I can afford $200 annual expense for my "Testing Hobby" and some possible addition to my PC performance.
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post #9 of 13
Look at it this way, with amd you need to change proccesser every year atleast to keep up, with intel a chip will last you 3+ years.
post #10 of 13
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Thanks for all the response everyone. It sure seem like I probably need to stick with Intel. I'm thinking I probably just need to go with a 3820 on the 2011 socket and then in the future, upgrading to a 3930k once prices drop.

I don't know if what we are doing will ever be considered heavy multitasking. HD video editing on photoretouching are going to be what this computer is mainly used for.

So am I understanding this right? I can go with a 2011 x79 and a 3820 chip and then upgrade to a 3930k in a few years since it will be 6 cores? I just don't want ot buy all new components in 3-5 years....
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